How does this sound?

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by RaRa, Jan 24, 2019.

  1. wore out

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    Unbelievable.
     
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  3. Rideandrepair

    Rideandrepair Road Train Member

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    It’s such a great deal, he has to try and convince You. I get a kick out of people who say You’ll never find a better deal. Run from it. Find your own deal. 1099 is filed So he can write off the cost. If you’re Incorporated it’s optional, Although some insist on giving you one.keep a copy of any 1099s sent your way. Keep them with taxes for the year.In case you’re audited, Otherwise You may appear to be not reporting income.The rate is too low because it’s a short trip. Probably pays 3 x that amount. He needs to convince a dozen O/Os. It’s a great deal!! You’ll never beat it!!! Lol
     
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  4. ZVar

    ZVar Road Train Member

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    I read it as the op has his own authority. If that's the case it will be the broker, for lack of a better term, is hiring the op's company to haul out of the plant. If that's the case it's a business to business contract so a 1099 might not even be needed.

    You are right though, his situation is about clear as mud.
     
  5. xsetra

    xsetra Road Train Member

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    Everyone driving a truck, has a schedule. Loading and unloading windows vary in size.

    But if you are being told when and where to fuel or take your breaks, that's more of an employee situation than o/o.

    Calculate the pay per trip. Not per mile.

    Good luck.
     
  6. Espressolane

    Espressolane Road Train Member

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    $ 1.88

    Know a few people running the north east region, leased on to a company doing better than that
     
  7. RaRa

    RaRa Light Load Member

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    Why do that?
     
  8. xsetra

    xsetra Road Train Member

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    If you charge per mile, where is the compensation for the non-driving labor hours. Detention, loading, unloading, breakdown, fueling.

    Sure $1.88 per mile you should make money. Just, because others make it work! With traffic and other consumption of time, I guess you will get one round trip for sure, a day. May be a 3rd leg. Sometimes 2 round trips.

    Budget per mile for all that, Just a guess, I don't know the full parameters.

    Just saying he wants to Max profit. You are on the hook for all the operating expenses. Fixed and variable. You also want to Max profit.

    If you don't include the cost of the flat tire in your pay. It lowers your per mile profit.

    Just compute all your costs, if you run for a per mile rate.

    If I can run a profit at a buck a mile do I only charge a buck a mile? No!

    JMHO...good luck
     
  9. RaRa

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    I'm not thinking about doing this I told him it was a bad deal I'm not going to do it. I just post this to see if I was crazy. I think itemizing things in a per mile basis is better than a per trip because all expenses are per mile. The only fixed cost are truck/trailer payment if you have one and insurance. all other expenses are directly dependent on how many miles you drive. 0 if you know all your expenses I don't see the problem and only calculating per mile.
     
  10. xsetra

    xsetra Road Train Member

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    How about your living expenses? Also called driver pay.
    Taxes? Permits, license, 2290. Yeah I know, nit picking.
    Some guys just don't think of all the costs and get blind sided when they come due.
     
  11. RaRa

    RaRa Light Load Member

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    The same question can be asked you when you say calculate per trip. at the end of the day you know how much money you need to make a month to come out on top. That's all that matters. It doesn't matter if you break it down by Miles by trip by days as long as you know your expenses the formula you use to get there does not matter.
     
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