70 hour rule - help settle an argument

Therefore, if you can be relieved of duty for 10 hours, you can be relieved of duty for 34.

Are you in agreement or saying a 34 cannot be done in a truck?

 

Technically time spent in the sleeper should be logged as sleeper but I've never heard of any violations written regarding this . If you're in a rest area though you better log sleeper as sleeper because if they check your logs when they see you get out of the truck they'll write a violation if you show off duty .

 

He is correct. The HOS regulate "driving time." You can "work" 24 hours per day, 7 days per week, 365 days per year and NEVER be in violation provided you did not "DRIVE" until you complied with the 70 hour in 8 day rule OR took a 34 hour reset. The 34 hour reset is an OPTION and not mandatory at all.

As a former driver trainer I have spent a considerable amount of time teaching new students these very concepts. There are 4 ways to get a legit 10 hour break, they are as follows;

1. 10 consecutive hours off duty.
2. 10 consecutive hours in the sleeper berth.
3. any combination of lines 1 and 2 (off duty and sleeper berth) that add up to 10 consecutive hours WITHOUT logging ANY on duty time or driving time within that 10 hour time frame.
4. Split sleeper berth rule which states you may divide your 10 hour break into "2 periods" 1 period MUST be 8 consecutive hours in the sleeper and the other remaining 2 hour period MAY be either off duty OR sleeper berth. The driver must take 8 hours in the sleeper berth and then combine that with an additional 2 hours in the sleeper OR 2 hours off duty (consecutive) either before OR after the 8 hours to add up to the required 10 hour break. This rule will extend the 14 hour work window by 8 hours (the time spent in the sleeper) but will never give you a full 11 hours of driving OR a full 14 hour work period.

Many drivers confuse the 3rd option with the split sleeper rule. To illustrate rule 3 simply think of it this way; The driver is sick and is getting out of the truck every few hours for the restroom, shower, soup, whatever. He may show 1 hour off duty with 2 hours sleeper then 1 hour off duty followed by 3 hours in the sleeper followed by 3 hours off. He has accumulated a 10 hour break through combining lines 1 and 2 consecutively.

Now follow this train of thought and apply it to a 34 hour reset. The key is to be Off duty. Whether that time is spent in the sleeper OR outside of it is immaterial provided you get 34 hours off.

 

Yes, and I meant no disrespect to you. What drew my attention was the statement that one could not WORK period after the 14hr period which is untrue. I'm glad you underlined Drive in this post.

 

After having read hundreds of posts on this site and other forums it's hard for me to believe that so many people don't understand the hos rules. Percentage wise, if only half as many of the total drivers out there are this confused or misinterpreting the rules, its amazing that the dot caldrons aren't over flowing with driver money!

 

And many people refuse to accept correction on their misinterpretations. This thread was to settle an argument on hos . An mention of hos here starts more arguments than it settles .

 

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