HOS Violation

Well so now its different because the scenario fits your idea. No surprise.

I'd run it, that's what I'd do or go around the scale, hell might even blow by them just because I can. lol

 

What if you dont have a cat scale ticket?

 

No, it is A violation. When it becomes serious is when by your attitude and history you display a disregard for the HOS rules by violating them habitually. The FMCSA and the state DOT is not hiding behind trees with binoculars waiting on you to make a 2-minute error and put handcuffs on.

 

Your right I got the 50 mile poster and safe haven poster mixed up.

Let's try again. Where in the regulations does it ever give you a safe haven exemption to HOS?

 

You are right that a 2 minute violation is likely better than the side of the road. Know what's even better? Proper planning and not getting in either situation. Millions of truckers do it daily, everyone can too.

And Ray, I'm not really saying what you did was wrong. Crap happens sometimes. It really is no big deal if it's only a few minutes every now and again. Is it a violation? Yes. Is it something to lose sleep over? Not really.

It's just we have people coming here stating it's legal to run 50 miles over, or there is such a thing as safe haven in regards to HOS. There isn't. It just gets people that don't know better in trouble for following bad advice, which doesn't help TTR at all.

PC is already widely interpreted, and some people run into LEO's that interpret it differently. As Moose said, there are no LEO hiding in bushes at truck stops and/or shipper/receiver. Just don't have a pattern when pulled over for an inspection. Above all though, be polite to the LEO and what might have been a ticket might not even be a warning.

 

What you want to do is avoid both. However stay in this business long enough and you are going to be forced to bust a clock. I think in my last years the clock I busted the most was the 14 hour clock. I did from time to time and noted it on my logs and got to a safe place to park ASAP. I know for myself when I was sitting in safety and they were looking at my logs most of the time the person would say I see that 14 and just moved on past it. However, I knew that they would place a verbal warning in the remarks. I once asked an FMCSA auditor about these things. He told me officially I have to say a violation is a violation and I have to act accordingly, un-officially I don't get too upset if I don't see a pattern. The FMCSA knows that shippers and receivers can be dicks. However don't ever make the mistake of forgetting they are REGULATORS charged with highway safety. Show a disregard of public safety either by a driver or a company and they will shut you down. EXAMPLE!