I just finished up the in frame on my 3406E. The motor turns over but it is not "even" like before. I'm not sure but I think something is outta time. While assembling the top end I did the timing of the valves/cam twice to be sure with the same result both times.
1. pin flywheel with the bolt which means #1 is at TDC
2. with #1 at TDC, install the cam gear so the timing mark on the cam gear aligns with the timing mark on the top of the front cover.
3. adjust corresponding valves/injectors/jakes.
4. turn motor over once to adjust the other half of valves/injectors/jakes
I turned the engine over and over when I was done to make sure the flywheel(bolt) and cam(timing mark) equal TDC. If I timed the cam 180 degrees off I would have hit valves with pistons already right??
Need some help starting 3406E after overhaul
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By chance did you check the flywheel pin timing with the head off. number 1 and 6 piston should have been at top dead. I ask this because I have seen the flywheel installed without the pin lined up which results in the flywheel out of time. If thats ok, you can also check your timing sensor. If its the old type of sensor, you need to pull it out. Do not lose the shim. The sensior is adjustable. With the sensor out, carefully pry the green center out this makes the sensor longer. now look in the sensor hole and make sure one of the raised teeth are lined up. Thread the sensor in WITHOUTthe shim. now take the sensor out and install the sensor with the shim. this sets the sensor air gap. Alot of times the sensor will get knocked in whhen removing the camshaft gear.
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If you were able to turn it over by hand, then the valves are not hitting the pistons. -
I pinned the flywheel with the head removed and yes #1 and #6 were at TDC when pinned. I've turned the motor with the starter for a total of about 45 second so far. It's a year 1994 5EK engine as far as being "old". It sounds weird while turning over though. This probably wont make sense but it reminds me of a friends 454 chevy that wouldnt start. He completely adjusted the valves wrong. With this 3406 the "pulses" while turning over dont sound like it did before I rebuilt it.
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Cats use a keyshone ring that needs pressure to seal. A new cylinder pack with new rings needs to seat. That may be the sound your hearing. It may not be a bad idea to go over the top end settings again to be sure. Is this the first top end on a cat you have set up? Does the engine have a engine brake? If so, the most common mistake made is the exhaust valve lash. When you adjust your exhaust lash you must make sure your engine brake slave is not touching the exhaust rocker with the feeler gauge in. If the slave is holding down your exhaust rocker, you will adjust your valve setting wrong, make the exhaust valve lash loose. The best way is to back off all your engine brake slaves at least one full turn and always make sure you can wiggle the slave when you have the feeler in the exhaust rocker. Any time you have the exhaust brake housings off the exhaust lash will change alot.
How did you prime the fuel system? The best way is to remove the return fuel line from the head at the fuel block. Then prime the hand primer until fuel comes out. this is easier than pumping the hand primer against the fuel return valve.Last edited: Mar 23, 2009
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It runs BUT---Well I reset all the valves. Nothing was out of adjustment that I could tell. I guess I needed to prime the fuel system a little better because it fired right up. I ran it at about 1200 rpm for about 5 minutes and then spittin and sputterin and diesel smoke all over. It idles fine, has no knocks that I can tell and has a constant oil pressure but as soon as you rev it up you smoke out the entire shop. It looks like I have some diesel in the oil also. I'm hopin this is a bad injector????????????????
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Was there anything wrong with your engine before you overhauled it?
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I rebuilt it due to the piston liner o-rings leaking on #1 cylinder. The head, turbo and injectors are being reused. I have run through the valves, jakes and injectors three times now and it runs rough still. Seems like when the oil pressure comes up it goes from smooth idle to total shop smoke out.
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Jakes out of adjustment!!!! Check the book, there are a few different Jakes used on 3406E's. Have to ID the correct one to get the correct adjustment procedure. Seems like this is the most likely problem considering the oil pressure you mentioned.
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Did you find anything wrong yet? I have had a 3406e with that same symptom before and it was excessive camshaft lash due to the idler mount moved. It was had to diagnose but if you had Cat ET and performed timing calibration it would become evident.
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