Parking On The Shoulder, 3 Dead

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  1. Taipan

    Taipan Light Load Member

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    Anyone blaming the suv,how about if that was your family.manage your hrs and trip plan no professional takes a break on the side of the freeway 3 million truck drivers we manage may be some of us
     
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  3. Freddy57

    Freddy57 Road Train Member

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    In California, parking on the shoulder is "emergency parking only". A reasonable person would have sought parking before running out of hours and would not be on the shoulder of an interstate highway. I would fully expect this driver will be facing three counts of manslaughter, it will interesting to see what the prosecutor does.
     
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  5. fss99701

    fss99701 Medium Load Member

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    I don't think because two innocent people that had nothing to do with it died that does anything to alleviate The driver's responsibility in the SUV.
    If he would have been paying attention this never would have happened.
    And as far as the truck driver yes it was a stupid place to park but there are a lot of stupid truck drivers. I see them everyday. They're the ones that are parked right on the line on entrance and exit ramps all over the i-5.
     
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  6. Rubber duck kw

    Rubber duck kw Road Train Member

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    But what if he were rearended the day after with that 10 minutes over showing on his logs? Something somewhere is going to have to give in hos or stupid #### like this is going to keep happening, and no "trip planning" will not fix it even the best plans go to #### every now and then.
     
  7. ZVar

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    How about him not going 10 minutes over? I know it's a foreign concept to some, but he could have stopped earlier.
     
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  8. rbrtwbstr

    rbrtwbstr Road Train Member

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    Here's a novel about idea. How about looking for a place to park BEFORE you're low on hours?

    Back in my OTR days, running Elogs, I had exactly one parking ticket. Maryland house on I-95. I wasn't parked in a lined spot, I was right next to a truck that was in the lined spot.

    But, I never slept on the shoulder of the highway. Nor will I ever.

    To those defending the truck driver, YOU are the problem.

    "But my Elog says I'm out of time and my dispatcher will yell at me"

    Who cares what some idiot in a cubicle thinks. Safety committee be dammed, I'm parking somewhere safe and legal. And if the idiots in the cubicles don't like it, too ####in bad.


    YOU are the captain of the ship. At least that's what we all like to say, isn't it? Until we make a bad decision. Then we turn into "My mean company made me park before I ran out of time, so it's their fault".


    Hopefully the family of the SUV drivers and passengers are able to get some justice out of this. Even if it doesn't bring their loved ones back.


    Who knows, the SUV may have suffered a mechanical malfunction causing a loss of control...
     
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  9. Cam Roberts

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    If it was family, it wouldn’t change the fact that they fell asleep behind the wheel, or drunk. Good thing it was tractor trailer and not on an undivided highway where it would have crossed into oncoming traffic and killed someone really innocent
     
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  10. shogun

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    The govt needs to issue 3D printers so people don’t need to order things. Grow your own food, raise livestock for slaughter to keep dangerous Cow Haulers off the road, 3D printers for the rest.
     
  11. Rubber duck kw

    Rubber duck kw Road Train Member

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    Maybe it was #### beyond his control caused him to not make it to where he was going to stop? Maybe he hit traffic that slowed him down more than he accounted for? Maybe where he was going to stop was full up and he's sick and tired of people banging on the door waking him up 2 hours after he finally fell asleep because he's in their way?Maybe you don't actually drive a truck and have no clue? Maybe sensible people look at just this one instance and say "that's why I won't run elogs until there's something resembling flexibility in the hos." Have you honestly never had a day where not one thing went according to plan?
    I'm not saying he was right for parking on the side of the highway, but I can also understand what would lead you to that situation.
     
  12. STexan

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    I'm sorry, I've never known an eLog device taking complete control of a class 8 truck and forcing it to shut down in that moment. So I'm not sure what you mean "lead to that situation". It takes a special kind if stupid to end up out of hours and immediately park on the shoulder. I doubt he was out of hours, he's just "one of those who park on the shoulder every day" to do his 30 or pee or make a sandwich, but he decided it was best to blame the eLog/HOS rather then admit he's an idiot all the time.
     
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  13. Hulld

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    How about we remove the parked truck from the scenario and instead put in two hitch hikers walking up the shoulder and then the same scenario for the suv leaving the highway and killing them on the side of the road.
    Would anyone say that it was the hitch hikers fault that the suv left the highway and ran them over?
    Would anyone say that hitch hikers didn’t trip plan well enough and shouldn’t be walking up the shoulder of a ramp and it was there fault and they got what they deserved?
    The problem and the cause of the accident was the suv left his lane for whatever reason and ran off the highway and hit a parked truck pure and simple.
    You could literally substitute anything on the shoulder tree,concrete barrier, police car, tow truck, etc and it’s still completely the suv fault for leaving his lane and running off the highway and hitting any number of objects.
     
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