Frac sand hauling O/O rates

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  1. Dave124

    Dave124 Light Load Member

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    Looks like everybody is trying to move frac sand these days, and looking for drivers and O/Os.
    As an O/O myself, I reached out to a few to test the waters and see if I should jump in with the rest and secure work for a few months.
    I received a pay rate proposal for my power unit, their trailer, of $105/hr for tandem tractor pulling triaxle hopper, and $115/hr pulled super B hopper. And $91/hr when on standby and they can bill the client.
    I asked if if was continuous work for the duration of the frac, and was told a vague answer of ‘every second day is full days’. So you sit in the truck in a pullout somewhere every two days?
    Anybody have experience with the sand hauling? It doesn’t look like enough to me to be worth it. Unless that second day sitting is paid standby?
    Supposedly work is through breakup, but that means your truck gets beat to hell in the mud and ruts on the bush roads.
    Can anybody comment?
     
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  3. Runawayscreaming

    Runawayscreaming Medium Load Member

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    Due to low rates. The present crop of frac sand haulers in Alberta is the sketchiest I have ever seen. Watch out for careening sand trucks.

    I do not haul frac sand but I interact with the sand haulers due to my unfortunate close proximity to them. I don't know how you could be guaranteed work hauling sand through breakup when everything is weather-dependent. I don't know which area you are referring to but in northern Alberta at this time of year many of the frac roads will switch to nights-only as they melt and then to completely closed as they unfreeze 24 hours a day.

    Standby in Fox Creek is the definition of Hell. Unpaid standby in Fox Creek is being tortured in Hell. Standby in the Two Creeks pullout is worse than Hell.
     
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  4. Dave124

    Dave124 Light Load Member

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    Trust me I know, I am NW AB and NE BC.
    Rates aren’t high enough in my opinion.
    And yes they said work was Fox Creek area through breakup, which was another red flag.
     
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  6. Dave124

    Dave124 Light Load Member

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    Unbelievable, but I am not surprised!
     
  7. Runawayscreaming

    Runawayscreaming Medium Load Member

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    And fine dining at Ernie O's, with carpets from 1971.

    1 star Tripadvisor review of Fox Creek's Ernie O's restaurant:

    "Since I work in this town I sometimes frequent this place for breakfast, the manager? Or pretends she the manager anyways stomps sound and swears up and down like she never had a fun younger life and the service is equal to that of a courthouse when your trying to pay a speeding ticket.

    I wish I could give this place negative stars."​
     
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    not4hire Road Train Member

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    BTDT; the emotional scars have healed.

    Mostly. o_O
    That too.
     
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