Double frame to single frame

Discussion in 'Peterbilt Forum' started by Dino soar, Sep 26, 2018.

  1. Dino soar

    Dino soar Road Train Member

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    I have a truck that I'm going to put new frame rails on. Originally it was a double frame dump truck.

    I understand that a lot of the newer trucks are coming out with a heavy single frame instead of a double frame.

    I was wondering if anyone knows if the strength is similar and what the difference in weight would be.

    I could replace it with a double frame but if a single frame is strong enough it might be easier just to put one frame on. And here in the Northeast we have so much road salt and corrosion between the frame rails maybe it would be smarter to go to a single frame.

    It is a Peterbilt (357 I believe) if that makes any difference.
     
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  3. RocketScott

    RocketScott Medium Load Member

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    I'd like to know as well.

    My boom truck has stuff growing between the two layers and I've though about replacing them with a thicker single rail.
     
  4. Loaderlou

    Loaderlou Medium Load Member

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    Hi Dino. I have a 2003 379 that I would like to do the same thing to. I’ve read in other threads about guys doing it. Have you done it yet? If so, how did it come out. I’m from the North East also and haul a lot of salt every year. When I look underneath my truck, I wonder how much crust is built up in between my rails. Double frame front to back.
     
  5. Dino soar

    Dino soar Road Train Member

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    I actually put that truck aside to work over my tractor.

    But if you are interested in doing that I would call PG Adams and ask them about the strength of a heavy single frame. A lot of newer dump trucks now come from the factory with a heavy single frame, but they would be the people to talk to about that. That was going to be my next step. If you send them the frame rails they can drill everything out for you just like the factory.

    If your frame rails are not that bad or you want to try to have them last longer, my suggestion is to go to Home Depot and buy some heavy duty caulk and caulk where those double frames meet everywhere front to back top and bottom. That will seal out air and water from getting in there and it should stop things from getting worse. If I put double rails back on there I will definitely do that because that will keep all the bad stuff out of there as far as I'm concerned.

    Also make sure you don't have any open holes in the frame that the weather can get in there and cause a problem with that either.
     
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  6. Loaderlou

    Loaderlou Medium Load Member

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    Yeah, weather is a killer. Most new tractors around my neck of the woods are ordered with a heavy single frame. I believe it’s 3/8” thick. We’re trying to save weight plus none of that corrosive factor. Standard tractor length is about 245” wheel base and they’re holding up quite well grossing 120,000 lbs
     
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  7. starmac

    starmac Road Train Member

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    I do not know how many times I have read or heard that a pete or kw or whoever will not sell a truck with a 600 horse engine or one with over 285 wheelbase or some such thing, unless it is double frame or at least a cab back insert, but that is all a bunch of huey. We run heavy spec trucks, my road truck is factory 310 wheel base with a single frame. No longer than a dump truck is, If I was just going to make a tractor, I wouldn't go over 5/16 frame, if plans are to keep the dump bed, I would go 3/8.
     
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