Gross weights

Discussion in 'Flatbed Trucking Forum' started by RollinThunderVet, May 15, 2019.

  1. RustyBolt

    RustyBolt Road Train Member

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    Don't forget to look at the max rating on your tires as well if you load heavy. My steers are 6175 each. A DOT officer having a bad day will start there.
     
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  3. RollinThunderVet

    RollinThunderVet Heavy Load Member

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    Good thinking boss.... mine are the same, that's 12,350.
    However I also get 400 or 550 lbs exempt for my APU depending on the state.
    So WA, with 400lbs, would be 12,350 plus 34,400 plus 40k split to total 86,750 ?
     
  4. Espressolane

    Espressolane Road Train Member

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    Let us know what the outcome was
     
  5. RollinThunderVet

    RollinThunderVet Heavy Load Member

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    Will do...
     
  6. x1Heavy

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    You still need a weight permit.

    When I ran containers I had a standing 100K permit in two specific states (Maryland and VA) regardless of my axle count and group on 40 foot or 20 foot boxes. (Especially with Richmond Ball Bearings..)

    There were many times I exceeded that on platform scales. Once I destroyed the load on a scale. Virgina wrote the 3000 dollar fine against eh company. The entire load from start to finish was a horrible fiasco. Especially with the way the meat was loaded into that box.

    Do not look at the gross weigh and go gee, let's load her down and get going. Waitaminite.... Talk to your states and get a exact information from them what is needed in way of permits or not and have the money ready for that move.

    IF your load is really big like say a 150 ton transformer move, you will want nothing less than a proper oversize overweight overheight bridge trailer set to load that thing onto it and then drive onto public roads. If you put that on a normal 18 wheeler it's simply going to crush it. THUMP. Really easy.
     
  7. beastr123

    beastr123 Road Train Member

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    Changing your registered weight is the best first move. Think of registering for 88,000 or 90,000 or more if you do OS/OW LOADS.
    you will need permits from each state to exceed 80,000 gross wgt.
    Each state can issue a single trip over-gross permit but if you are registered for the maximum for your axle combination then an annual permit becomes about the same price as buying 1 or 2 single trip.
    This goes for WA,OR,ID,MT,ND,SD,NE,CO,KS,AND WY.
    Some of these states only allow the high registered weight loads on state highways and not on Interstates (CO,NE), others require a special permit only for interstate travel(ND,SD).
    This information may seem confusing to some but has been compiled through many years of running west of the Mississipi from the US and Canada and fines payed or talked out of.
     
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  8. Long FLD

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    Wrong. In WA he doesn’t.

    ND and SD...raise cab card, permit to run over 80k gross on interstates.
    NE... raise cab card and permit over 80k on interstate.
    KS and OK...85500 on non-interstate routes
    MT...raise cab card. No permit
    WY...raise cab card. No permit
    ID..raise cab card. Extended weight permit needed
    UT and NV have permits but they’re expensive
    WA...raise cab card. No permit
    OR...raise cab card. Extended weight permit needed.

    Now, if your trailer is a 48ft you’ll probably bridge out at 84000 or so unless somehow you can get an insane amount of weight on your steer axle without being up under your trailer a bunch. My cattle trailer was a 52ft spread and I bridged out at 86000. You can’t just add up your legal axle weights and load it up. You will get measured.
     
  9. x1Heavy

    x1Heavy Road Train Member

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    Thank you kindly for the information.
     
  10. ChaoSS

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    And correct me if I'm wrong but Oregon has a different bridge formula than other states so you'll likely bridge out lower than other states.
     
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  11. Long FLD

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    With a spread it should be the same. I don’t think things start getting real screwy until you start adding axles. It was our 7 axle inner bridge that cut us back compared to other states.

    Edit: I’m assuming the OP has a 48ft spread, I can’t recall if he said or not. I know with my 52ft spread cattle trailer I could go 86k gross in OR like other states. He will for sure have to know his measurements and check things out first or he could be in for a ticket.
     
  12. ChaoSS

    ChaoSS Road Train Member

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    Got it. I never dealt with it I just know the eight axle fleet had to deal with it. I was registered and permitted for 82 but since almost everything I touched came from or went to California I never had a chance to take advantage of it.
     
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