Disqualifying drugs

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Mototom, May 17, 2019.

  1. Chinatown

    Chinatown Road Train Member

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    I smoke weed out of the Juul : vaporents - reddit
    https://www.reddit.com/r/vaporents/comments/67ltwa/i_smoke_weed_out_of_the_juul
    I smoke weed out of the Juul (self.vaporents) submitted 1 year ago by IPodJoe. ... I'd highly recommend this method of consuming the marijuana to anyone and his brother. It's stealthy (doesn't really smell much at all plus if you desired to hide smell just add blueberry-mango-whatever and you're good), it works really, reaaaallly well. .
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    Yeah, that works, but still can't pass urine or hair follicle drug test.
     
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  3. x1Heavy

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    Xanax is DQ all stop.

    High blood pressure must be under 140/90

    Anxiety? Ha. That's nothing. Wait until you start wrestling with the traffic downtown during rush with a 18 wheeler.
     
  4. x1Heavy

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    I have been prescribed xanax at a very low dose about 12 years ago I was making basic mistakes trying to drive on it. The kind of mistakes that say HERE I AM POLICE, A DUI driver... I stopped it cold turkey. My Neurologist told me I was one of three to have gotten off it in her life time. If I had been prescribed roughly 2mg bars on up every 4 hours and then stopped? The heart and blood system will try its best to kill me within 8 hours. Xanax is a tolerance builder. A itty bitty bit can knock some people down. But once you build tolerance and migrate to tablets and then Bars which are really big... if a child or other adult without tolerance ingested it thinking candy etc it will kill.

    Took me 18 months to stop that puppet strings problem which was detected in a special test which revealed three true problems previously undetected. Ive got doctors working on that now.
     
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  5. pmdriver

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    You have to be very careful now since they are sticking cbd into many products, even milkshakes and beer in Colorado. Some of those herbal supplements are like throwing darts at the target, sometimes its good and sometimes it is way off.
     
  6. lovesthedrive

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    The only thing you can do is to ask the doctor to put it in writing of the "If the doctor feels whether it will impair the users ability to drive"
    If the doctor feels they are willing to put it in writing that the person will be competent to drive. They are golden.
     
  7. Old-school trucker

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    Tell him to see if he can get milder prescription like zoloft. It's not for everyone but it works for me
     
  8. Moose1958

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    After getting my email inbox blown up asking about this question I decided to for this time to limit my self imposed exile and attempt an answer. The DOT has given the answer in part 391.41 (b) (12), and again in this. I would also recommend placing THIS link into your bookmarks and looking at it. Look at the information starting on page 208.

    Given the change that has happened over the last few years, the FMCSA is moving the liability of some things like Diabetes and Heart problems to the driver's private physician and using the Medical Examiner as a filter to make sure everything is OK.

    The ONLY answer to this question is this drug is OK for a driver to take provided that drivers physician has prescribed it and is willing to accept the liability that comes with it and the Medical examiner agrees.

    There are 2 kinds of substances that are PROHIBITED by the DOT for a Driver to have in their body. ANY of the substances that are in the schedule 1 category and ANY medication used to control seizures. Outside of this, the DOT leaves it up to the physician and the Medical Examiner!

    On a personal note, Zanax is a benzo and I would not take it and try to drive. Benzo's slow your reflexes down and can cause your alertness to suffer. In fact, some benzos are as bad or worse than alcohol. Because of this danger, I don't think it is as easy as some might think to get a physician to go out of a limb and say it's OK to use and operate a CMV.

    Back to exile now!
     
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  9. Sisbro

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    Withdrawal from narcotics absolutely CAN kill you! I have a relative who was addicted to heroin and tried to quit, had a heart attack. LOTS of people die in jail from forced withdrawal from heroin, and it can happen even with methadone. Just google it. "dying from narcotic withdrawal" - or heroin withdrawal - pain pill withdrawal, whatever - you will find it.
     
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  10. buddyd157

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    moose, if i recall, there was an "orange book" of drugs, that was listed as to narcotic or not and DOT approved or not.

    at least, i thought it was called the orange book...

    i tried looking it up, but all i came up with, what i had posted in posting #4

    i got too many "page not found" as i searched both my favorites list in my browser and googling from memory..

    i also recall that some drugs have been removed from the narcotic list, to non-narcotic, and again, that does not mean those now non-narcotic drugs are acceptable by DOT for CDL drivers to use.
     
  11. Bob Dobalina

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    There are exceptions, and the common medical explanation is that the stress on one's system resulting from opiate withdrawal can aggravate other existing problems (in your example, a probable preexisting heart condition).

    However, whether it's a myth or not, the official medical position is that the withdrawal itself from opioids will not kill someone. That distinction is only awarded to alcohol and benzodiazepines.

    I'm not stating my own opinion, just how they explain it. My opinion is that if someone dies going through withdrawal (for whatever reason), what difference does it make?
     
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