PSP vs MVR

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Proxy, Jul 2, 2019.

  1. Proxy

    Proxy Light Load Member

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    So we started running PSP's prior to getting drivers cleared by insurance etc to prevent the misconception that we have a solid driver being onboarded only to find out that our insurance company ran his MVR and labeled them with a bad score which will affect our renewal if we added them. Till now I was led to believe that the PSP record has all violations, roadside inspections for all licenses the driver has ever had combined. We ran a total of five, two of which came back with roadside inspections with no violations at all(one from three years ago), but the insurance scored them with the worst possible score they could be insured with, how is this even possible? I don't see how something wont show on a PSP but will on an MVR, I would think its the other way around? At $10 a piece and constant audits on these records I would expect them to be accurate...

    here is a snip directly from the FMCSA website



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  3. haz-matguru

    haz-matguru Road Train Member

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    PSP only goes back 3 yrs. A move can go back 7 yrs
     
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  4. Proxy

    Proxy Light Load Member

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    Based on that, lets say a driver had an at fault accident with no injury's/death's what is the typical fall off point for something major like this(after being convicted)? is there a chart to reference? maybe these drivers have violations going back further than what I can see
     
  5. flood

    flood Road Train Member

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    psp covers violations IN a cmv ONLY.... if you get a violation on your motorcycle on home time it doesn't show up
    mvr covers ALL violations (tickets) in a cmv AND pov….. if you get a violation on your motorcycle on home time it does show up
     
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  6. Proxy

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    And just to confirm any and all driving violations accumulated outside of the truck will impact the CMV license the same as if it was a CMV ticket, or are they weighted a little different?
     
  7. flood

    flood Road Train Member

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    close SOME are worse in a cmv... speeding for 1.... in a pov say 20 over you get a big ### ticket in a cmv you could lose your cdl... 16 over in a construction zone in GA is an automatic license suspension in a cmv and ADD because you have a cdl if you get a ticket for ANYTHING say seatbelt in your pov you can't do traffic school to get it off your mvr
     
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  8. dibstr

    dibstr Road Train Member

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    PSP includes the five-year crash and three-year inspection history from the FMCSA Motor Carrier Management Information System (MCMIS). It does not include items that are on an MVR and an MVR does not include items on a PSP or from the MCMIS. They are two distinctly different entities and do not cross reference.
     
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  9. snowwy

    snowwy Road Train Member

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    The 2 aren't even the same forms.

    I don't know how someone can mistake one for the other.

    SMH.

    The PSP is inspections
    The MVR is driving citations.

    Insurance don't care about inspections. They want to know DRIVING CITATIONS.
     
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  10. Proxy

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    Most of the confusion came from line three on the PSP "always includes original violation regardless of whether it resulted in a different conviction" I assumed this included speeding tickets etc, I do not have a CDL therefore some of this is foreign to me
     
  11. snowwy

    snowwy Road Train Member

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    Cops have been known to add driving things to the inspections report. But driving record is what insurance want. If I get a ticket in my car or motorcycle. It won't be on my PSP. Only my MVR.
     
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