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This is an HOS Violation Right?

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Elcheese, Jul 9, 2019.

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  1. Jul 9, 2019 #1
    Elcheese

    Elcheese Bobtail Member

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    Just making sure but I'm like 99.9% positive my dispatch just asked me to commit an HOS Violation in order to get a load delivered on time. They called me up and basically said to switch myself to pc, go 26 miles to pick up the trailer at one of our drop yards and then it's another 5 or 10 miles to the receiver, and they would just do all the loading/unloading macros from their end once I get there/have hours.

    I'm in the middle of a sleeper berth break when this happened, about 3.5 hours in and have 0 hours to drive. I told them no way, I'll pick it up when I have the hours as I've been late here before and I'm pretty sure this facility will be able to get me a door late at night when it's super slow. So yeah I would be considered under dispatch if I went to pick up a loaded trailer, so that's an invalid use of pc correct?

    Goosd thing I'm already planning on quitting this company. Anyone know what local companies are good in Sacramento area? I don't have any endorsements right now it's been kinda rough finding stuff, looks like I'll have to either touch freight or accept lower pay.
     
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  3. Jul 9, 2019 #2
    GreenPete359

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    Your 1st mistake is answering them!!! I can’t stress this enough. You are on your break & supposed to be sleeping. Do not answer them!!!!

    What are they going to do, get mad at you for not waking up? Now you refused a load. Right or wrong you F’d up in their eyes.

    Btw, yes. 1,000 times yes it would be an hos violation you doing what was asked of you.
     
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  4. Jul 9, 2019 #3
    Juve1985

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    It's a violation 100%, you might get lucky and get this job done but what kind of carrier ask you to do this kind of stuff, and if they ask you now most likely they will ask you to break the law again in the future
     
    Juve1985, Jul 9, 2019
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  5. Jul 9, 2019 #4
    Elcheese

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    Fair point but sleeper berth doesn't necessarily mean you are sleeping the entire time. Anyway doesn't matter like I said I'm already looking for another job I don't care if they think I f'd up I'll just tell my next prospective employers that I quit because of #### like this when they ask.
     
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  7. Jul 9, 2019 #5
    Trucker Kev Paid Tourist

    Trucker Kev Paid Tourist Road Train Member

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    yes that's a No-No you can use personal conveyance if you were at the receiver to get to the truck stop if you ran out of time and you couldn't park there..
    BUT YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO USE PERSONAL CONVEYANCE AT ALL TO UNLOAD DO ANYTHING DUTY WISE OR GO TO A SHIPPER ONCE YOU'RE ON YOUR BREAK OR A RECEIVER
     
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  8. Jul 9, 2019 #6
    TROOPER to TRUCKER

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    Wasn’t the reasoning that pc is what you can do in a taxi?
     
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  9. Jul 9, 2019 #7
    motocross25

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    Yea man you can not use PC to “advance a load” is how I was put it. What they asked of you is 100% advancing a load. Hell its picking one up and delivering it! I’m not gonna sit here and nerd out on the legalities of it, because we’ve (almost) all done some fudging that’s just sometimes the name of the game. Just know had you done that, and God forbid something happened, you really don’t have a leg to stand on. You were not seeking a safe haven, you weren’t even unladen. And a company asking you to do this, I doubt would have your back if stuff took a turn for the worse.
     
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  10. Jul 9, 2019 #8
    ZVar

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    And this is the most important statement. The company (dispatch) will push you to break HOS laws, but when something happens the company (management) will throw you under the bus.
     
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  11. Jul 10, 2019 #9
    Elcheese

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    Yup that's all stuff that was going through my head when they were asking me to do this. Then I looked up the fines for hos violations, there's no way they pay me enough to risk that!
     
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  12. Jul 10, 2019 #10
    RockinChair

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    As far as dispatch is concerned, you are. ;)
     
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