Detroit flywheel

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  1. Rideandrepair

    Rideandrepair Road Train Member

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    2000 series 60 12.7. I bought a new lightweight #23514177 supposedly what was original when new. Old one was a # 23507442. Same size, everything matches up, a little different on backside, making it a “ lightweight. Original must have been swapped out. Anyone know if there are any benefits, standard vs lightweight, besides weight savings. Also going with 2050 torque 6 pad. Any ideas appreciated
     
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  3. Bean Jr.

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    Lighter flywheels shift faster. I think that it needs to be significantly lighter though.
     
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  4. Cam Roberts

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    makes sense, all that rotating mass takes away for those rpms to come down. Isnt it weird how when you are loaded heavy as hell, you can shift super smooth coming out of a red light on an incline. Then when you are unloaded, its a bear and you have to wait awhile to get it in gear. In those are the times i throw on my engine fan to slow the motor for shifts.
     
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  5. Rideandrepair

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    That would be a welcomed improvement
     
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    Just a note, I got flywheel off amazon, for $235.00. That includes optional 2 day shipping. Price was $189, free shipping. Best price I could find, was $289, 171 miles away and $330 near home. Same aftermarket brand. Freightliner wanted $800, not sure what brand, alliance maybe? Detroit Direct, original equip.was $2100. First time I used Amazon.Delivered to the door!! What a deal!!
     
  7. Dino soar

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    I'll tell you one thing about the lighter flywheel. It will be a hell of a lot easier to put in.

    Glad to hear you're going to get your repair done.

    Be careful with that clutch though. That is one heavy mofo.
     
  8. Intothesunset

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    Less rotating mass means less momentum going up grade.
     
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  9. Rideandrepair

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    That’s what I was wondering about, after talking to an old racer, in New Orleans, first Guy to break 6 seconds in a front engine dragster, 1965. He told a story of how, after riding on Boat, and the torque it had, he got the idea of putting a weighted flywheel in his small block Chevy,like the boat had, somehow it gave him the mid range, and top end torque to beat Mopar big blocks. The guy was really something, full of racing history. It was only after I noticed an article on a cork board, about him from 1965, that he lit up, The stories he had about economical racing, were amazing. Said he couldn’t afford the new rear engines.So he quit racing. Interesting to me, as my Dad was into Drag Racing, winning Stock B class 1965 Toledo summer nationals,
     
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    Put a 14 liter dampner on your 12.7 for some extra rotating force.
     
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  11. Snow Monster

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    Way back when, drag racers used to put a truck flywheel behind a small block to get their cars to launch harder, but they dumped the clutch between 6k and 8k rpm.

    I don't think a lighter flywheel in a diesel powered truck is going to make much difference when it comes to momentous torque going up hills.
    Matter of fact it should pull better with a lighter flywheel because of the reduction in rotating mass.
    In drag racing it's said that removing 25 lbs of rotating mass is the same as reducing the car's weight by 100 lbs or adding 10 hp.
    If the engine was spinning 6000 rpm, there might be an advantage to a heavy flywheel, but at 1600 or 1700 rpm, not so much.
    Unless you like to like to launch your truck hard, foot on the floor and dump the clutch, a heavy flywheel may improve your 60 ft times by a tenth or two and break many things in the process.

    A heavier bob weight, rotating mass, makes an engine more durable, rob's power, but last's longer.
     
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