Should I take a chance and drive for O/O?

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by dhellmer, Sep 30, 2019.

  1. LoneRanger

    LoneRanger Road Train Member

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    specially in this market.
     
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  3. TTNJ

    TTNJ Heavy Load Member

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    The real question is what does he pay you?
    If he thinks he can continue to net $1000 a day (which I highly have doubts that this is even remotely true), tell him to put up and guarantee you a base pay.
    I’d willing to bet he backs away from that.
     
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  4. Chinatown

    Chinatown Road Train Member

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    Which type pilot is your goal? There's several former pilots that post on here. They're truckers now.
     
  5. FoolsErrand

    FoolsErrand Road Train Member

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    If youre a 48 state flatbed wth chains binders ramps edge protection, dunnage, coil racks and an array of tarps willing to paper log hammer to any money zone... $1000 a day off DAT/ITS may just barely be possible but not very sustainable. His numbers and ego sound a hair inflated but who cares. Take the job and learn learn learn!

    I work at a similar arrangement. Half the time im a quarry slave and half the time in a free agent with someone elses truck, fuel card and a stack of JJ Keller haul passes, and i love it, the latter part. Its risk free owner op training that you get paid for. If youre having a rough week its your own fault and you wont be cursing your company.. Youll just say oh well. When its going great you get all the glory and are walking on a cloud.

    Pay format is important here. The simplest is probably percent pay and i suggest percent of ratecon not percent of linehaul. If you are burning up your minutes all day every day finding your own loads then he is saving either his own time not being bothered.. Or not having to pay a dispatcher to do it. You should get percent of the whole rate in my opinion. If i was offered 25% linehaul less fuel surcharge and had to pay my own DAT/ITS accounts id insist on 35%. More if i had to buy my own gear.. Thats 2-3k for flatbed. If it was "thats too high" id negotiate for 27-30% of ratecon where the FSC isnt subtracted before your cut.

    Also you want to discuss who will be filling out carrier packets. If its him.. Youll need him very available. More than he sounds willing. If its you.. Youll be filling out a lot of packets and should also include that service into your percent. Or atleast insist that he gets you a phone and printer/fax/invertor to do it. Your phone is gonna be plum full of truck numbers in no time.

    But anyways a gig like that could be the best of both worlds and i cant believe more drivers dont try finding it.
     
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  6. FoolsErrand

    FoolsErrand Road Train Member

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    But to make the $$ this way you gotta like adventure. Wake up thinking youre on the way to baltimore end up in albaturkey by next morning.
     
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  7. thelushlarry

    thelushlarry Road Train Member

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    I would give you my opinion. However, my wife does not allow me to have opinions. Sorry I could not help.
     
  8. TTNJ

    TTNJ Heavy Load Member

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    It’s time to find another wife my friend
     
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    Yeah, I'd tread cautiously too, Grasshopper. I did that p/t for a real good friend, I was supposed to be paid cash, like cash cash, all was well for a while, until he hit me with a 1099, as per his accountants request. Well, guess what, after taxes, it clearly wasn't worth it, then he got sick, guess who took over. I was done, and we didn't talk for years. Up to you.
     
  10. dhellmer

    dhellmer Bobtail Member

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    Working my way up to ATP eventually. Single, no family, extremely high demand for pilots, lifetime dream of flying, figured why not.
     
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  11. uncleal13

    uncleal13 Road Train Member

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    His truck, his operation, his problems.
    You get 25% if the gross, everything else should be his problem.
    Anything more, just get your own truck. You'll never be able to control your expenses with his truck.
     
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