Engine Choice

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Trucker186, Nov 26, 2019.

What Motor Do You Like The Best ?

  1. 3406B

    18.4%
  2. 3406E

    15.3%
  3. C15

    19.4%
  4. 444

    2.0%
  5. KTA600

    2.0%
  6. N14

    15.3%
  7. 8v71

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  8. 8v92

    2.0%
  9. 60's Series 12.7

    18.4%
  10. 60s Series 14.0

    7.1%
  1. REO6205

    REO6205 Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    They had a noise all their own. The first one I heard start up on a cold morning I thought.."Jeez, I hope that thing is supposed to sound like that".
     
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  3. XxdiggitxX

    XxdiggitxX Bobtail Member

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    Oops.. what the #### did I just say? Surely a Detroit!
     
  4. AModelCat

    AModelCat Road Train Member

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    Last time I checked, Cummins and Detroit didn't build a full line of construction equipment......
     
  5. Final Drive

    Final Drive Road Train Member

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    And good construction equipment they have, I rent one of those Cat backhoe's one's a year to clear some brush at my place...
     
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  6. Shawn2130

    Shawn2130 Heavy Load Member

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    Since Cummins and Detroit only make engines, they have to really keep up on technology and make themselves stand out.

    All the trucks and equipment manufacturing companies also make their own engines and chose to offer different engine choices based on company or driver preference.

    If for example, if Fiat decides to make their own engines for Ram trucks because they can, Cummins gets a black eye.

    If Volvo decides to only put their engines in their trucks with Volvo transmissions, Cummins gets another black eye.

    So Cummins and Detroit has to build good engines, keep up with ever changing technology and emissions regulation changes or they go out of business.

    Cat makes everything, they can continue to move the world in off highway construction.
     
  7. Snow Monster

    Snow Monster Medium Load Member

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    True, but Euclid then Terex used DD engines in their equipment and the KT, as in KT Cummins engines, supposedly stood for Komatsu Tractor, and I have seen them in big Komatsu dozers.
     
  8. Oxbow

    Oxbow Road Train Member

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    And, they make the engines for that equipment. Many of which fit right in on highway trucks.

    There were a lot of things going on in the industry at that time, in addition to emission requirements. Cat was toying with the thought of actually building their own truck, not just cooperating with and rebranding another manufacturers product, and went as far as dedicating a facility in Texas to do just that. After further consideration they decided to bag the whole thing as being too risky for the potential reward.

    In my opinion none of this in any way reflected that they did not have the ability to produce an engine that continued to be competitive, but rather the investment required wasn't worth it any longer. OEMs at the same time were all touting their own engines as well. Cummins has managed to hang it there as an independent, but one has to wonder how long that will continue ( in the highway engine market) if the OEMs feel that the margins are too thin relative to using their own engine.
     
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  9. wore out

    wore out Numbered Classic

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    Euclid and Terex do not make any major component of their equipment.... they buy pieces and piece them together.. CAT makes every major piece of thers
     
  10. Oxbow

    Oxbow Road Train Member

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    There are some exceptions in recent times like using Perkins and Mitsubishi in some of their small equipment, and they don't actually make their telehandlers, but your right in the majority of their equipment.
     
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  11. AModelCat

    AModelCat Road Train Member

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    Cat does rebrand a lot of their smaller stuff. Mostly material handling equipment.
     
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