Will marijuana possession impact your CDL?

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  1. Bdog

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    I don’t use drugs. Period.

    I live in Texas and my mom who is 76 has been in this hospital and is very ill from pneumonia. She has other medical issues which will get her eventually but not anytime soon.

    She hasn’t ate anything in over a week and receives all her nutrition via IV. She says she has no appetite and only weighed 85 lbs when she came to the hospital. The doctors say they can’t do the IV long term due to other complications and have to pull it later this week. A feeding tube is not an option due to GI issues she has.

    Her doctor pulled me aside today and said if she starts eating she could live months or even years. If she doesn’t I expect her to be dead within a week. He suggested giving her edible marijuana to stimulate her appetite.

    I am contemplating driving to Colorado and getting her some. I know if you fail a drug test you can lose your CDL and I have zero concerns on that as I have no interest in touching the stuff but if I were to get caught with it will it impact my CDL? I am self employed so no employer related concerns.

    If she needs it she will get it one way or the other. I will move her there if I have to but that makes visiting her and such difficult as I can’t move because of the wife and kids here in Texas. Making a trip and getting it for her seems like the most logical solution even though it is illegal. I don’t really care about any fines or anything like that my concern is long term implications like losing my CDL.
     
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  3. x1Heavy

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    You cannot possess Pot period. It is a total Federal Ban, your CDL is federal therefore you cannot have it on you, in you with you, pocket, cab whatever. You cannot transport it across state lines. You run into each state potentially capturing and prosecuting you. You will never make it back.

    YOU WILL lose your CDL. Its going to be gone. Everything in my thinking is based on DEA's specific ruling that Pot itself THC in particular is a total and complete ban for those in Federal Public safety type work which is YOU, the CDL holder which itself is FEDERAL.

    You will lose your grandmother. Thats a given. All she has to do is start eating within a week.

    That I think is a choice your grandmother made. She has decided maybe enough is enough and since she is going to pass on soon either by choice or by medical situation eating is the last thing she wants.

    If I were you....

    You find that doctor who made that suggestion about edible. ASK HIM where pray tell do YOU find that stuff there in Texas? There is no point in talking about something to go get or use medically by a doctor if there is nothing legal or no legal mechanism n Texas to do it right away. If the doctor cannot help you then thats it. Just a suggestion.

    Suppose you did go to Colorado. Got some. Managed to drive back in 30 hours with it. You are literally gambling with your entire future, your entire ability to work in trucking and your unknowns not yet known. If you are captured before you get back to Granny. Then she dies. YOU are incarcerated. And thats that.

    If you think family is difficult now, wait until you are incarcerated and for example here in Arkansas facing 10,000 dollars to start off in fines. Thats just a start. Not to mention Federal Charges for crossing state lines. If its federal and you get put away, they can ship you to say.... Marion Illinois in the big house there. Your family will have a hell of a trip to visit you all the way up there.

    I can go on and on. But think on two things.

    If your grand ma decided to not eat shes gone. If your doctor knows where in Texas to get pot into her for a medical need HE needs to make it happen right there in that hospital. If Texas denies it then thats that. Never mind Colorado.

    Your self employment in trucking has to be related to a drug consortium which is a totally different problem. It does not matter if you were say... the Pope hisself if you were caught with pot in a juristiction that bans pot outside of say Colorado. You are going to be prosecuted.

    Arkansas has a medical pot card, but it takes a few months to get and only for a limited set of diagnosis. And then you are not allowed to possess it in any form outside of that card limitation. And only in Arkansas. Its a example.


    Finally not last.

    You have a week to get her to eat something. If anyone in your family knows her at all what is her absolute personal favorite dish or food, find it and fix it very well, deliver it to her bedside and see if she will eat. If she decides that she will not eat or have too many medical problems inside of her to make food irrevelant then she is going to pass on.

    Nothing else will matter. Not moving her to Colorado etc.

    You could buy a home in Colorado near a hospital for her, get a medical RV transport with nursing or med flight with King air and nurses to get her there to the new home and see if that will help tomorrow. But it takes huge amounts of money and for what gain? Years of stomach pain and trouble with medical billing? That is going to kill her anyway?

    When someone contemplates doing something outrageous and talks about it, I say this... Awesome. But at the same time Sun Tzu says before engaging in Warfare, count the potential losses. And for you, for your grandma its too much. A bridge too far. So colorado is out.

    Your Grandmother has to decide if she will eat. If not? Then she MUST contemplate passing and while there is time to make her wishes known before the courts get involved to enforce a intubation or heroic measures to keep her alive by machines forever and ever. Otherwise known as a DNR order if your grandmother is of sound mind and made the choice that she will not eat. Your family will have to let her be.

    Dont go to Colorado. Find your doctor who suggested that pot idea and ask HIM in that local hospital... "From Where, with what pot?"

    You would think Doctors will consider whatever medicine is legally open to them. If he is talking Pot great. Find some there in texas where he thinks he can get some legally. NOT you going to Colorado illegally. Your doctor has to know for sure if he can get or source pot in some medicine form to use for your grandma in the hospital otherwise its just talk that will destroy your future, your family and everything you have built so far. No doctor has the right to make noises or suggestions like that. It's outrageous.

    Ive said enough. Don't do this. Your grandmother as long she is her own person is sovereign to use a bad fitting word. She gets to decide what she wants. If she eats? Great. Feed her. If not? Despite her favorite dishes made well in front of her? Then thats it. Start making arrangements.
     
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  4. x1Heavy

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    It does not matter. Vacumn or not.

    I would not even try to take on a police dog with something like that.

    I would agree that he will definable be captured. Probably on a federal interstate prosecution to begin with then when that's finished, he will face state charges all over again. It will be years before hes free. It might be Oklhoma that takes him away. Or some other place faraway from home.
     
  5. x1Heavy

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    I don't blame him either not at all. However its not worth the risk.

    Hell I was thinking I cannot possess pot on a regular license anyway. Never mind that big CDL.

    I lost my mother when the liver transplant on her was successful but she required intubation support due to a undiscovered group or colony of bacteria growing around outside and on her Broncital Junction above her lungs inside the chest wall. Once the bacteria eroded the air pipe walls and broke into her lungs thats the end of it. Killed her by septis 4 days before we pulled the plug after confirming brain death. She was essentially a tomato plant at that point. No life outside of a machine supported body temp, watering and removal of waste. Thats not living. Its a form of death. It is death. Worse than death actually so it made changes in what we would want as cancer survivors.

    Sometimes we looked at the 250,000 dollars in billing for 45 days post surgery transplant and wondered if she would have lived without it for years. But because of that colony of bacterial house growing inside her chest she was already a dead woman walking. It was about 60 days on before they finally made that discovery when the breathing tube came out of her pulling putrid green bacterial. They thought maybe they can fight that too but septis (Blood poisoning) had already set in. Thats that at that point.

    Ive already been on life support and bypass twice in my life for surgery recently and through a accident earlier in my infancy and don't mind it temporarily. But if it is because family wont let go? Then its a waste. Shoot me out back or something.
     
  6. singlescrewshaker

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    Get the gummy's. Buy a decoy bag, stuff em that & roll home like any other trip. Just smile & be polite if stopped.

    Just do what you gotta do. I love my mama, & will do whatever needs to be done to help her in anyway I can..

    You can buy one of these stash cans also, keep it in your side box with other lubes. Cool weather now, so the gummy's won't melt I think. Good luck, maybe delete this thread.. ;)
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  7. x1Heavy

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    Thats a good thought. TTR might have to delete this thread. Talking about acquiring illegal material and how to get it from A to B in the face of enforcment probably is a crime as well. Conspiracy for one. If taken to logical conclusion.

    However I don't see it that way, I see it as a doctor offering a option that may or may not be medically availible for grandmother in Texas. And that depends on what Texas thinks about pot medically and legally.

    IF the doctor was just running his mouth knowing he cannot do a #### thing with pot for your granny in Texas, that might open him up to problems in court perhaps.

    If he had unlimited money, ship grandma to Colorado tonight and admit her into a facility up there and introduce ten pounds of edible pot from the store legally there. She might outlive us all. And well done.

    Such epic choices in life.

    But ask grandma first. She gets to decide. Remember she has been here a long time and may have her own thoughts for or against pot. It may be something she will not want to pollute her body with. or something other reason.

    If she is not in a position to make decisions or speak for herself then Texas via the doctors will decide whats possible. If the family wants to move her to Colorado they will have to get the ok from the Court to have the doctors in the hospital back off and discharge her.
     
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  8. Bdog

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    Just to clarify it is my mom not my grandma. While she has health issues up until two weeks ago she was perfectly functional and independent. She travels a lot and the day before she went to the hospital she just got back from driving herself to another state to go on a little vacation with her friends. It isn’t like she has been suffering and laying in bed miserable for months and has just reached the end or something like that. She just got very ill with the pneumonia and nearly died from it and for whatever reason hasn’t wanted to eat since she got it. Heck for three days during this ordeal she couldn’t even tell you her name, what year it was, what city we are in, nothing but now she is mentally 100%.


    To make it clear I was not planning on making the trip in a CMV. I was going to take a personal vehicle.

    The doctor tried some prescription drugs to help her appetite but they didn’t work. He told me MJ wasn’t a medical option he could provide but he said he believes it would help her if I could get it for her. My mom does not have cancer but her doctor is an oncologist and deals with terminal cancer patients regularly so he likely has seen its benefits in them.

    Money isn’t a concern. I don’t drive for a living I do other work and use my semi to haul my stuff to my job sites. Worse case I could hire a driver if I lost my CDL but it would be a pain as the truck only does about 10,000 miles a year.

    Maybe I am naive or mistaken but I didn’t think small amounts of MJ were much more than a fine. I don’t really know though last time I touched the stuff was twenty years ago in college.
     
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  9. Bdog

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    Also I am not asking for advice on how to do this. I merely want to know the consequences if caught doing it.
     
  10. Dino soar

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    I think that is a very dangerous proposition.

    If it were me, I think I would find someone locally and buy it and I think I would make my own edibles.

    CBD oil Also may be a benefit. There is a product called a magical butter machine it will make you a tincture that she could just drink or a concentrate that you could put a few drops into whatever.

    Definitely ask the doctor if he knows where or how, but I think what I've said to you is the safest path.

    You do not want to be traveling over state lines illegally transporting marijuana.
     
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  11. Bdog

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    Do they really make that big of a deal on a personal use amount? I am sure one would get in some kind of trouble but I just can’t imagine it being that severe. Like I said I don’t really know I don’t mess with the stuff but darn near every where you go you smell someone smoking it. I figured they were more after the big fish not some guy with a months supply for a sick person.
     
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