Lost control twice now, what happened?

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  1. TurtlesLikeI

    TurtlesLikeI Light Load Member

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    Two times now over a course of about 3 months, in rain, I felt my truck losing control. Both times, I regained control too fast to even see what was going on in my mirrors, but I’m guessing the trailer was sliding and I was feeling it i the tractor. Scared the crap outta me!

    I suspect it was the same trailer in both instances, but not sure. The first time it happened, I was going in a perfectly straight line. No braking, no hard acceleration, 60mph or so, nothing that (from my experience) would cause a sudden loss of control. I felt my tractor being pushed in a weird way, not wind, and immediately knew something no longer had traction. I steered instinctively and it cleared up. Pulled over, everything looks fine, suspected my trailer brakes locked up or something and wrote a DVIR for it. The second time, as the roads were pretty much dry or drying from rain that had stopped, I felt the same exact thing and it cleared just as fast. This time it was during a lane change, probably going 60+. Both times were an empty trailer.

    I’ve driven well over 20,000 miles in rain and snow, and thought I had a good feel for it. Now I’m not so sure. Why would a trailer just lose control without any sudden (de)acceleration or swerving beforehand? Is it possible that if this was indeed the same trailer, the trailer is at fault somehow? It’s hard to ignore that this happened both times in/after rain. Oil patches maybe? Just simply going too fast with an empty/salvage TRL?
     
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  3. rachi

    rachi Road Train Member

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    Black Ice maybe. Has happened to me.
     
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  4. D.Tibbitt

    D.Tibbitt Road Train Member

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    same thing happened to me last year in texas road was rutted out real bad and all that water from the rain collected in those ruts. had a very light trailer and low tread on drive tires and i hydroplaned 4 times in about 2 minutes . same feeling that u describe it happened out of nowhere truck just decided to go towards the ditch. new drive tires solved the problem as they were only at 4/32 of tread left. check the tread on ur tires with a tread depth gauge it could be something as simple as that
     
  5. Slowpoke KW

    Slowpoke KW Road Train Member

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    What’s your drive tires look like? How deep is the tread?
     
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  6. TurtlesLikeI

    TurtlesLikeI Light Load Member

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    I’ll have to check when I get to work tomorrow.
     
  7. MACK E-6

    MACK E-6 Moderator Staff Member

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    How were you loaded when you felt this happening?
     
  8. FozzyNOK

    FozzyNOK Road Train Member

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    Cruise control? Highly doubtful that it was the trailer as there are no driven axles.. sounds like your drive axle(s) broke loose.. whichever wheel is sliding is the one that wants to go to the front of the parade..
     
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  9. Slowpoke KW

    Slowpoke KW Road Train Member

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    Chances are they are your problem
     
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  10. TurtlesLikeI

    TurtlesLikeI Light Load Member

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    I used to always lock my axles in rain and snow but these International’s have a consistent and annoying beep whenever the switch is toggled. Would turning that on help?
     
  11. TurtlesLikeI

    TurtlesLikeI Light Load Member

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    Little if anything. Both times were return trip so either empty or light salvage.
     
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