Ok, so that makes sense. If that road is new than any GPS will think you are driving like "cross country" through a field or something while you are on it, yet will try to put you on the nearest known roads at the same time. I just ran that route on the Garmin 465T and it takes you through the middle on 34 as well. Thanks for the clarification! I'll send it into the ALK map correction email address to get it changed too.
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Discussion in 'Trucking Electronics, Gadgets and Software Forum' started by Dieselboss, Jun 19, 2009.
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I'm having some problems converting the video properly. The camera is shiny, but deceiving. I'll work on it tonight.
Stopped in Pilot, noticed the coming soon sign was gone for the 465t and asked the manager about it. He just got them in and said he'd be happy to exchange the 430. I've had the 465t up for about 5 minutes and I love it already. The buttons are way easier to hit, the touch screen is far more responsive, the address search is instant (3 letters and it knew what I wanted), and dragging the map is more precise than I thought was possible. I'll mess with it more and update tonight. -
I have been driving for around a year now and have been using a TomTom Go for navigation help. It has worked well, sometimes directing to wrong turns, etc. It was not designed for a trucking application and that is well know.
I'm in the market for a "trucker" GPS and thanks to the many threads and info here I have narrowed to either the PC Miler Navigator or the GY500. The extra bells and whistles don't interest me that much, I'm buying it primarly for the truck routes.
Any feed back, opinions, likes or dislikes between these two units would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
Al
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Hi Boss,
I quick question as to the newer version of the PC Miler Nav 430. I have seen the unit on sale in a few Pilot truckstops and was wondering about the newer release due out this month. Does that make the ones on the shelf out-of-date or is the download free or automatic when you install/hookup to your computer?
Any thoughts or feedback?
Thanks for all the work and insight on this issue.
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Feedback: The software "looks" much the same with just a few small cosmetic changes. The update is a "map and routes" update and it is quite extensive. I am finding many new roads, addresses, and POI's that aren't in the initial release. Also the trucking restrictions and proper routing is doing quite well in comparison to the old version.Novice Driver and RAG Thank this. -
after the update what gps do you prefer, and what one is most accurate for us truckers?
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Result for the "Fairfield" route: Garmin takes me through the center of town on 34 and does not have the truck bypass around the southern end of town at all on the map. PC Miler correctly now routes me on the 34-bypass truck route to the south of town and doesn't go through the middle any more. (technical note: PCM map version 23 / Garmin map version 2010.20) -
And the winner is.... PC Miler. And those who have the early versions (lets say... prior to April of this year) can vent (justifiably) about things like "my software corrupted itself" my "DC charger cord stopped working" and "ALK support is abysmal" and "it doesn't have nearly as many addresses as MS Streets or my Garmin." You would be right. If you bought it from us, these issues were much less painful than if you bought it at a truck stop or other dealer because we fully support all products after the sale, but they were still painful, and PC Miler took a black-eye as a result during the launch phase. Just remember that prior to 2009, there was no PC Miler Navigator or Garmin 465T. New stuff has bugs - its part of a "early implementer's woes."
And my reasoning? I maintain several key points about the Garmin all along that still hold true: Real-time traffic is nice, lane-change warnings are helpful, the interface is clean and the NavTeq maps are very thorough - but not perfect of course. However, with a price of $500 for only a 4.3" screen, and the truck-specific routing being only partially accurate, I can't recommend it as the "best" choice at this time. Another big show-stopper for me in the current version is that it does especially poorly when you go "off-route" where it then either stops routing altogether or it tells you to do fun stuff like taking a u-turn in a residential neighborhood. I am confident that Garmin will of course be continuing to update the units with new truck routing as time goes, but this review is about today, and not how it might be in a year. I also think that the bluetooth capability is not a big justification for the higher price because it is too hard to hear and for a caller to hear you anyway when you are moving. They would make a better use of technology by putting an FM transmitter instead of bluetooth. Steadfast fans of Garmin - get it. Again, I'm not saying that it is not a nice unit with great potential from the world's leading maker of GPS products.
The PC Miler's are way lower priced at $299 / $399 / $499 (for 4.3", 5", and 7" respectively) and, especially with the V23 maps, are now very solid in their addresses and the truck-route accuracy. Their support department has been split between "hardware" and "software" departments so has become less painful as well with separate phone numbers. (By the way, I had a 40-minute wait for Garmin support this week as well.)
So there, you finally nailed me down to an answer on this one. Oh and, let me add the inevitable phase "there is no substitute for my Rand McNally atlas - laminated edition of course" so that we can get that post out of the way now.
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I used my 465T yesterday in NYC, it did "ok" for the most part. It does seem to have a aversion to putting you or keeping you on interstate highways. As a example, while traveling I-84West I need to get on I-91 South. Instead of just bearing left onto I-91, it brings me further down I-84 West to take some oddball way to only end up on I-91 south. I really didn't see the point of that, I didn't lose any time and was still in my delivery window but it was just strange all the same.
It did find my first store on 42nd street, and managed to navigate me to my back haul in the Bronx without issue. The bad was when going home, it wants to take you on "less then desirable" truck routes out of the city, when I just want to get on the main highway and get the hell out of NYC!!
I think this unit has its good and bad points. I think it should keep you on the main highways whenever possible, instead of taking you on what it feels is a time saver on some secondary truck routes where you are constantly upshifting and downshifting.
I think my major problem is I so far have used it in areas that I am familiar with, so its a epic battle between human and GPS who is right and who is wrong.
I still think that this unit is not any kind of guarantee that it is all you need for navigation. I still mapped out my routes with Google maps, and plan on getting the Rand McNally atlas for trucking.
So my grading so far for the Garmin 465T:
Rhode Island-D
Northern Mass/NH-B+
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