2007 International 4400 Various Issues

Discussion in 'Heavy Duty Diesel Truck Mechanics Forum' started by Dameon, Jun 20, 2018.

  1. Dameon

    Dameon Bobtail Member

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    I got my truck back yesterday. Seems to be running better than ever. They stuck to their price quote and threw in spots of mechanic oil/grease on the steering wheel, seat belt, door pull and seat for free. THAT is why I hate taking my truck to a shop to get it serviced. The workers in the back don't give a crap if they get grime all over things. Not their problem. Sad.

    Anyway, they charged me about $500 for the oil cooler. When I was getting parts pricing to just do it myself, I got a quote from an out of state parts dealer (an International dealer no less) for $190 for an OEM kit. That seems like an absurd markup. I asked my dealer if I could supply my own OEM parts in sealed box, but they said no. So they bend you over for labor and parts... plus the oil all over my interior is the icing.
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  3. Dameon

    Dameon Bobtail Member

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    Oh yeah, I forgot about one little extra bonus they threw in... on the drive home from the shop, the Check Trans idiot light came on. I assume this relates to the Allision automatic and not a gender-confused individual.

    I noticed that all functions of the transmission are working normally (as far as I can tell), so I suspect it is a wire or sensor that got bumped. The one oddity that I noticed is that the LCD display in the dash cluster is always on Drive, despite the transmission showing R, N, 5-1, etc.

    I'll go find the method for reading codes through the dash cluster since my OBD reader didn't work out.
     
  4. Dameon

    Dameon Bobtail Member

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    Having a heck of a time finding Bluetooth (or WiFi) OBD readers that support heavy truck protocols. The "standards" seem to be J1587, J1708 and J1939. Can anyone help me with what protocol my truck uses?
     
  5. SWM_TECH

    SWM_TECH Light Load Member

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    You might consider at Nexiq USB Link 2 part # 124032 about $676 at Diesel Laptops.com
    ServiceMaxx J1708 is available for free from International now.
    The Servicemaxx J1708 Software covers all Pre-MaxxForce Engines which are listed below:

    • Box I6 (1994 – 1997)
    • Box V8 (1994 – 1997)
    • DLC I6 (1998 – 2004)
    • DLC V8 (1998 – 2004)
    • DLCII I6 (2005 – 2006)
    • DLCII V8 (2005 – 2006)
    • DLCII V6 (2005 – 2006)
    Google search ServiceMaxx J1708 or go directly blog.diesellaptops.com/2016/02/26/international-servicemaxx-software-is-now-free/
     
    Dameon Thanks this.
  6. Dameon

    Dameon Bobtail Member

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    Thanks for the suggestion, but $700 is pretty steep for a weekend user on a farm truck. The International place charges me $90 to read and diagnose the codes. That's a lot of visits for $700. There is a convenience factor though.
    None of which seem to match my engine/year.

    I'll take a look and see if they have something less expensive and maybe not as "professional".

    So my truck speaks J1708?
     
  7. SWM_TECH

    SWM_TECH Light Load Member

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    No probably not. In reading the thread I missed the original thread Topic with year of truck & was looking at your avatar that had the "DT466" in the image. However, sometimes the 2007 does not have 2007 emissions because it is built earlier. Do you have 2007 emission engine? If you could post last 8 digits of VIN I could let you know.
     
  8. Dameon

    Dameon Bobtail Member

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    Should be good enough to determine serial break...

    7H456xxx
     
  9. SWM_TECH

    SWM_TECH Light Load Member

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    I tried checking using the partial vin but could not make a clear determination. I was working on 2007 4400 yesterday & it has EPA 2004 engine & has same labeling on side of truck as your avatar. It's VIN was like 7H410xxx. I believe a 2007 emission engine will say Maxxforce DT. Also, FYI Bendix ABS software is for free. It called "Bendix Acom" & is helpful if you have air brakes with Bendix ABS controller for example. Also, the round diagnostic port common on medium/heavy trucks is "Deutsch" connector..
     
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    Reason for edit: correct spelling & Grammer
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