2008 c15 engine brake

Discussion in 'Trucks [ Eighteen Wheelers ]' started by mrtceo, Sep 10, 2012.

  1. manasteel

    manasteel Light Load Member

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    the rocker shaft studs are not relevant to oil supply on the acert. however you can identify the newest version of the stud by removing one, if it is a straight shank all the way up you should replace them, they will break. if it is machined thinner under the hex of the stud approx 1" long you have the latest stud version. you should check them all to be sure.
     
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  3. Superhauler

    Superhauler TEACHER OF MEN

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    not to argue but yeah one of the studs does supply oil the the jake on an acert. well maybe not the three studs but the one that looks like a bolt. that goes down through the rocker shaft.
     
  4. manasteel

    manasteel Light Load Member

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    my bad yes just the bolt
     
  5. mrtceo

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    Mechanic ran out of time this weekend. Nothing electrical, tighten up actuator and jake plugs with O rings, cleaned oil out of them with brake clean as well. No change. He said there are other possible oil supply issues, since the head is supplied by one 3/8 port, which also comes out of the supply for the accessory drive. If bushings are loose in drive gears, could be taking oil from the supply to head. First thing affected would be the last thing supplied, which is the engine brake. The bolts in the housing are all correct as well. Oh well. Nothing is ever easy anymore.
     
  6. Jas

    Jas Medium Load Member

    Is it weak on all jake setting or does it just feel like you've dropped one bank?, does it sound weak or feel weak? there is a difference.
    Above all else make sure the overhead clearnaces are right, after that-
    If they sound weak-
    If the jakes are weaker than unsual on all 3 settings you most likely have an oil supply issue, look for a spun cam bearing, or a massive oil leak under the rocker covers, maybe a missing gallery plug in a jake/IVA housing.
    Typically a cracked housing will only result in one weak bank but if they're broken bad enough you will see all the jakes get weak.
    Something else I've seen but is unlikely in this case since they were ok for a while after the work was performed is one or more rocker shaft installed upside down, that creates a big oil leak.
    It isnt possible to put the bolts in the incorrect order to block the oil supply to the jakes on the Acert as the housing prevents the studs and reduced shank oil supply bolt being mixed up.
    If they sound ok but a feel like they are weak in operation-
    Check for boost leaks and turbo condition, good jake operation requires good boost from the turbos, if you aren't getting the boost they will be weak.
     
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  7. mrtceo

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    He mentioned the possible spun cam bearing. weak on all settings. when he ran it with the valve cover off he said there wasn't any visible excessive oil coming out of anything. Gonna have to make some time and take it apart. I'll keep posting updates. I appreciate everybody's info.
     
  8. Jas

    Jas Medium Load Member

    There is a tool you can get for jake brakes to measure the pressure supplies to the jakes, it screws in where the solenoid goes, unfortunately the Cat brake doesn't have that option, you can measure oil pressure at the air compressor feed line, the will at least tell you there is supply to the top end but the cam bearing and idler bearings are downstream of this point so you would have to check those things the hard way. Has anyone cut and insepcted the oil filter? If you have a spun cam or failed idler bearing there should be some metal in the filter.
     
  9. mrtceo

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    Now I have a fault code for "Intake Valve Actuator 1". Engine brake still acting up but sounds just a little different. Lost about 8 to 10 lbs of boost pressure since code came up, and can smell some blow by that I never noticed before. Turned around and came home, have 12:30 appointment at KW dealer. (it's a pete, FYI)
     
  10. bubbanbrenda

    bubbanbrenda Road Train Member

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    Mine went into the garage last nite for the same thing (BSX) 5-6 actuator code I got over 1,000,000 on mine. My CEL blinks if tou hit a bump just right, I thinking harness I'll let you know as soon as I find out.
     
  11. mrtceo

    mrtceo Bobtail Member

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    BSX is '02-'03 year?
     
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