I have a 2013 Maxxforce 9/10 that runs rough and codes 3661 fmi 5 injector 3 close coil open circuit, 3662 fmi 5 injector 4 close coil open circuit, 653 fmi 4 injector 3 open coil short circuit, 654 fmi 4 injector 4 open coil short circuit. It only seems to do it when it's cold and once it builds a little heat it's fine, ICP pressure at idle is around a steady 1000 psi, fuel pressure is at 70 psi, the number 3 & 4 injectors and injectoer harness have been previously replaced and the problem remained, once I got it I did test the harness from the ecm and found no issues with the circuit checks, I haven't went to much further into it yet. I was wondering if any techs here knew of any common issues that cause this problem on these. We have Mitchell Heavy Duty and I am using JPRO, we did have factory software but it expired, I work at WWWilliams Detroit but we work on all makes and models. I just wanted some advice from some more experienced IH techs before I spent too much of the customers money troubleshooting this, Thank you.
2013 Maxxforce 9/10 rough running and codes when cold
Discussion in 'Heavy Duty Diesel Truck Mechanics Forum' started by Trucktek78, Apr 17, 2018.
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Injector coil resistance is 1 ohm +/- 0.5 ohms. It should be also completely open to ground. The coils do short out internally, go open and will also short to the injector body internally. So all pin point electrical checks are necessary. These injectors are also a higher failure part and getting only 3 - 4 years out of an injector is normal. Since the harness has been replaced, I would say you are looking at injectors. I know it is expensive. But I highly recommend replacing all 6, installing new high pressure oil adapters (pucks) between the high pressure rail and injectors and install a new ICP sensor while you are in there. If not, 6 months from now, you'll be back in there for another injector.
BoxCarKidd Thanks this. -
One of those here. One injector every 6 - 10 months or so. Only three left to go.
Heavyd Thanks this. -
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I'm going to go back through and test the wiring from the ecm through each injector coil and back to the ecm first however these Mitchell wiring diagrams suck! it doesn't really tell me which ecm connector is which but it shouldn't be difficult to figure out.
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No, these trucks are not liked by too many mechanics. Connector on the ECM for the injectors will be the 36 pin one, or the one by itself. There should be two twin 76 pin connectors on the other side of the ECM. Pay close attention to the connector and pins at the rocker cover.
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Last edited: Apr 19, 2018
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I forgot to mention that when it codes for the number 3 & 4 injectors it codes for opens and shorts for the coils almost all at the same time
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Cat ACERT ECM will do that when injector drivers fail.
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