2015 Freightliner Argosy

Discussion in 'Trucks [ Eighteen Wheelers ]' started by Studebaker Hawk, Jan 17, 2014.

  1. Studebaker Hawk

    Studebaker Hawk Road Train Member

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    I hope this thread doesn't spiral down to the COE vs CONV debate. I hope it would be used more to exchange info about the appropriate use of cabovers in a market that is starved for them, i.e. developments like this one in the same magazine:

    http://www.truckinginfo.com/blog/al...uro-style-cabovers-in-the-u-s-and-canada.aspx

    The Argosy doesn't have a 4 point air suspension, and the "ride" imo is acceptable. The law of physics applies to this machine as any other, wheelbase, location of the driver in relation to the axles and his height above that line (pitch/yaw) can be calculated for any vehicle or truck and scientific conclusions drawn about how to manage those forces. In a modern cabover, particularly the European ones, they have been managed better than the cabovers most drivers in this forum remember, designs dating back to 1982, when IH released the 9600 and made almost no changes until withdrawing the model from the US in 1999( it is still made in South Africa for export)
    Gee, we had a CB radio for communication back then and used to freeze our collective rear off at a payphone waiting for dispatch. Times and designs do get better over time.
     
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  3. russtrucker

    russtrucker Road Train Member

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    Those trucks are available as glider kit. It is a new truck with pre emission engine, transmission, and rear axles. power glider is the factory set up engine w/o transmission and w/o drive axles. Roller glider is factory installed rear axles but w/o engine and tranny.
     
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  4. Scania man

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    Euro cabovers are as good as they are due to intense competition and strict rules regarding safety, while conventionals are naturally comfortable the euro boys spent years engineering comfort, personally I'd prefer a conventional layout (euro conventionals were excellent but nobody producing them anymore) you cannot beat having a 70"+ sleeper and a nose for front impact ( and I like looking down the hood) I do think Coe has their place in NA for city deliveries etc and it would be nice to have a choice. Euro coes are way too heavy to ever be sold in NA but I'd like to see some of their quality and innovations used in US trucks but in a way that wouldn't change their character too much. As regards the argosy.... Def a market for them in the distribution sector

    Just wondering......if you have to take an older doner truck off the road.....does that truck have to be registered to you or just any truck?
     
  5. Studebaker Hawk

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    If you go to the Freightliner website, also linked in the article, they have the exact EPA regulations about any glider kit. It would appear that you just need a vin from a donor truck, in which case anything sitting in a junkyard will do. As long as the components installed are the same age or newer than the donor you are legal. Wide latitude going on here, a loophole large enough to drive a truck through, as Fitzgerald Gliders have demonstrated. I don't think the EPA is going to get too excited, gliders are still a fraction of a percentage of the annual class 8 truck sales.
     
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  6. Pablo-UA

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    About ten years ago Mamoth trucks were popular here. They look like retired ore wrecked trucktor frame is used as chassis, generally with N14 ore Series 60 and COE cabin from European Junk Yard. I saw Volvo FH, MAN F2000, Volvo F, Iveco Euro Tracker cabs on Freightlimner and International chassis. Wiring was custom, like a way to reuse stock cab electronics....thse truck look a bit wierd
     
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    Is that an ERF cab??
     
  9. Pablo-UA

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    I'm not sure, the last time I worked on Mamoth it had Volvo F12 Cab
     
  10. Scania man

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    Yeah that's a 'plastic pig' cab alright
     
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