2019 Freightliner weight isses

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by CharlesS, Feb 25, 2019.

  1. PE_T

    PE_T Road Train Member

    I am trying to understand the road atlas. It says 80k for MT and UT. So does that mean 80k gross without requiring permit? There are some states in the road atlas that show over 80k like CO is 85k. Does that mean one can be 85k without permit, assuming your equipment can handle the weight and your registration shows 85k?
     
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  3. snowwy

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    Utah gives you 1% on gross and axles. I know. I've done it.
     
  4. PE_T

    PE_T Road Train Member

    I think that 1% is not in the books, but just a thing a certain weigh station got going on. I’ve never heard of it or seen anything like it in the road atlas.
     
  5. Omega1

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    I honestly believe the difference on the 2019 Cascadia and earlier models has to do with the fuel tanks position. I have read and experienced that the 2019 fuel tanks are mounted "more forward" than previous model years.
     
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  6. PE_T

    PE_T Road Train Member

    That and also the entire frame of the truck could be a bit shorter, putting the 5th wheel closer to the steer axle. The placement of the 5th wheel platform could be off, and the type of 5th wheel used could have limited adjusment positions. Pretty much a poorly spec’d truck. Somebody needs to get fired.
     
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  7. Long FLD

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    MT doesn’t require permits, only a higher registered weight.
     
  8. Long FLD

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    Talk to whoever does your licensing. Many states allow over 80k gross without a permit, you only need a higher registered weight on your cab card as well as the equipment to haul the extra weight. WA MT WY ND SD NE KS OK are a few off the top of my head, I’m not familiar with states back east. ND SD and NE you need to buy a permit if you want to run on the interstate, if you stick to the 2 lane roads no permit is needed. KS you can go 85500 without a permit off the interstate, and OK you can go 90k on 6 axles off the interstate.

    The atlas is only basic information.
     
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  9. Long FLD

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    Not on an extended weight permit. Unless they were being nice to you. Either way a blanket statement of being allowed 1% is false. We could only bridge 105k so with your 1% that means 106,050 yet we had a guy get a ticket with a load of salt on for being 105400 after they measured him. He was over gross and they pulled his permit.
     
  10. snowwy

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    I've never had a problem. I roll through northern Utah twice a day up. Empty back. Lately I've had to go to Idaho. They haven't hassled me either. My trailer will weight 44k. On 3 axles. But it's tanker.

    My gross has been around 98+
     
  11. Long FLD

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    How big is your spread? A few hundred pounds on an axle group I imagine they let slide. But if you ever got measured and we’re found to be over gross of what you can bridge they will pull your permit. I’ve loaded wrong before and got a ticket for being over axle but I wasn’t over gross. Over gross is what gets you in trouble there and all in saying is that a blanket statement that they give you 1% is incorrect.
     
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