2022 Great Dane DV issues.

Discussion in 'Heavy Duty Diesel Truck Mechanics Forum' started by Concorde, Mar 14, 2025.

  1. Concorde

    Concorde Road Train Member

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    Trailer has about 400k miles on it now and starting to give me problems. Just replaced all the rubber and suspect my axles are out of alignment. I know I could have gotten 500k out of them if I caught what I suspect is an alignment problem.

    So here’s what just started happening..Twice now while taking a slow right hand 90 degree turn I have heard a very loud bang coming from the trailer axles..really loud like wtf loud!

    Got under it today to grease the rails and spent some time looking everything over. Best I can tell is that I may have Worn out axle bushings.

    Here’s where I need the help..
    I really don’t know where to take the trailer to have it gone though by someone competent who can get it right the first time. I tend to find all the people that can’t even put a oil filter on correctly..

    Is 400k miles normal for needing new bushings?
    Planning on all new bushings, shocks and an alignment as worst case scenario..any guesses on cost? Any shop recommendations?



    Second real issue is the disk brakes. I got a feeling that the glide pins on the calipers are getting seized up. Will a mechanic be able to go over all of them and make sure they work properly or will they just want to replace the entire calipers?
    Rotors have no wear, meaning that there isn’t any ridge on the outer edge so I’m wondering if any shops can turn them or will they just replace them. I guess worst case is they replace rotors calipers and new pads..along with new abs wheel sensors..trailer abs light is on.

    I really hate dumping money into it , to me it was at the end of its service life when it needed tires.

    Going to price out a new one tomorrow and try to decide what I need to do.
     
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  3. LongHaulTrailer

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    As far as new trailers go, I'd stay away from Hyundai. I can't tell you how many new ones have leaking wheel seals within the first 6 months to a year.

    For your current trailer, the miles, weight, and where it's been all play a part in the bushings. The cost of an alignment and replacing the bushings will vary based on how much of a pain it is to replace them and if there are any other issues causing misalignment.
    I wouldn't jump and replace all 4 wheel speed sensors, that may not even fix the issue. You can pull the blink codes when you're hooked up to the trailer, the process and codes are different for Wabco and Bendix but it's an easy process. The rotors are legal down to 37mm, after that they're a violation and I don't know if anyone turns them because of that. Any good mechanic can test whether your calipers are in good condition and moving freely when they should be.

    *Disclaimer- I'm not trying to self-promote, just giving an example.*

    Cost wise, and I'm only speaking for myself as I'm 100% mobile and don't charge the same as a shop, I can give you a rough estimate of what I'd charge in labor for your current concerns. Diag time would be 3 hours for ABS (checking codes, wiring, and seating), suspension (visually inspecting, lifting and manipulating, checking alignment), and calipers (visual inspection of boots, backing off & checking for movement, checking rotor & pad thickness and condition). All 4 shocks would be 3-3.5 hours depending on how bad the hardware is. Alignment would probably be 4-5 hours. Not factoring in parts, that's $1,550 depending how far away you'd be from me. If it's more than 15 minutes or so, it'd be another $135 (covers travel & mileage) so we'll say $1,685. That's for the high side of the labor estimates. If you were to want calipers, pads, and rotors, that would obviously up it but that's dependent on the inspection and diag.
     
  4. Siinman

    Siinman Road Train Member

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    I am getting close to that amount of miles on my 22 Utility Dry Van. I really need to get into it and see what all needs to be fixed up before something happens. I just replaced a Brake Chamber at cost of 350 for the part and 250 for the install. I have a feeling I have one more that needs to be replaced pretty soon. I need to check my pads closer to see what they look like. That is the one issue I hate on having disc brakes vs drum.

    Not sure if you will run into anything else on the disc brakes like I did. But lots of the shops do not carry the correct Brake Chamber for disc and gonna guess they may not carry anything for them. So I would for sure call ahead and try and get that information answered before you stop. I am going to bring mine to Utility at the KCMO Peterbuilt dealer. They were pretty honest about what was being done when I had them install my arrow stuff. Not sure if they work on other trailers or not but I bet they do. If you call ahead they will work you in if they can FYI.
     
  5. Concorde

    Concorde Road Train Member

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    I already had a brake chamber go on me about a year ago. I guess there’s a couple different chambers and the one I needed wasn’t in stock at Petro but they got it quickly the next business day. I ended up getting two replaced on the same axle and kept the good one as a spare. Forgot what I paid, want to say $1,500 for both installed..somewhere on TTR I got a thread on the subject.

    The disk brakes are a real pain if they aren’t brand new. Inspecting them is next to impossible for the average driver OTR. Really the only way is to remove all the tires and that sure ain’t going to happen during my pre-trip inspections, lol.

    Mine are no longer holding when I need to slide the tandem and heavy. Got to have a wheel chock to get it done. I really don’t use my brakes much at all.. I will probably end up replacing the pads on the tractor from old age, definitely not from being worn down. I could probably get a million miles out of my brakes but the pads will probably fall off before then, lol.

    Called the GD dealership today and got some pricing on new trailers..Think I’m just going to dump a pile of money into mine and get it right.
    Those prices don’t include a scale, skirts or tire racks. Those items and interior lighting would raise my cost another $4k.

    The Hi-Spec is what I have now and was $43,700 complete fresh from the factory. This was at the peak of the pandemic craziness when everyone was fighting over trailers..This dealership didn’t raise my original quote one penny and that’s why I won’t buy from anyone else.
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    "The disk brakes are a real pain if they aren’t brand new. Inspecting them is next to impossible for the average driver OTR. Really the only way is to remove all the tires and that sure ain’t going to happen during my pre-trip inspections, lol."

    At the 1 minute mark this video shows how to tell if the disc brake pads need to be replaced with the wheels on.
    Bing Videos

    See posts 4 and 11 in this thread. One could also buy an inexpensive inspection scope/camera.
    Oooookay, how am I supposed to inspect Disc Brakes? | TruckersReport.com Trucking Forum | #1 CDL Truck Driver Message Board
     
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  7. wichris

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    For the drives/trailer just use the universal can. Mount it, leave it caged, loosen the clamp and rotate to line up the hoses. Or spend more and get a left or right can. Haldex universal is around $110, ProPack around $80
     
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  8. Siinman

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    That pretty much sums it all up for me as well. No way gonna spend 50K on a trailer right now. Maybe next year it will come down a little more. I have had mine aligned once when I got the lift axle installed. I am the same and never use my brakes unless have too. Truck will go 1 million miles on brakes so not worried about them at all.
     
  9. Short Fuse EOD

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    Wow, that would be incredible. Good return on investment.
     
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  10. Concorde

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    Forget about a new trailer, you need to get one of the new Volvo’s hahaha
     
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  11. El Hueso

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    I would rather have drums but most seem to be with disk now. When you need to slam pads in, it sure is fast. Like the old Jaguars. When disk brakes have a major issue like a caliper, it's big bucks and you're down for a few days. They fail in a big way.

    Inspecting the pads can be done crawling under there once you get used to it. The Bendix tool is a waste of money. Trying to work it in there will drive you nuts. If you get under there with a good flashlight and look at the rotor, you have to see where the pad meets it. Finding a spot where you can see it can be a challenge. Eventually you can find the spot where the pad touches and you see the metal which is the rotor and you have 3 surfaces. Stare. You see the rotor. Then you see a strip of material touching it which is brake friction material. Then one more strip which is metal backing. When mine get to about 1/4", I'm planning brakes.

    The other way is, on Bendix they put a little ridge on the bracket that holds everything on there. There is an identical ridge on the caliper. When the pads wears enough, the two ridges will be lined up (from the caliper sliding) and that tells you to pull the wheels and PROBABLY do the brakes. That's how it's supposed to be anyway.


    Give me drums any day.
     
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