30 min break workaround for otr

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  1. gravdigr

    gravdigr Road Train Member

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    I don't know if this has been mentioned but I found a way to keep my full 14 hour workday legally and still get in that 30 min break. I have been using the split sleeper provision almost exclusively. I'll park and log sleeper for 8 hours which extends the 14, then when the 30 min break is due I just take a 2 hour break and use it for meal, shower, excercise, whatever (even sitting at a shipper/receiver), and it completes the 10 hour break adding more hours. So far this has worked out well for me. You really aren't losing time, in fact you are gaining an extra 30 mins by incorporating it into your 10 hour break.
     
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  3. flightwatch

    flightwatch Road Train Member

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    Very interesting...I will have to try this out.
     
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  4. SweetDaddy2

    SweetDaddy2 Light Load Member

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    So if you split your sleeper how far out does it extend your 14 I look an I dnt it so plz eh splain it to me
     
  5. gravdigr

    gravdigr Road Train Member

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    Ok, here's how the split sleeper works....
    You can break up your 10 hour break into 2 breaks of 8 hours and 2 hours. The 8 hour break HAS to be 8 full hours logged sleeper. The 8 hour break extends your 14 for 8 hours. The 2 hour break can be logged any combination of off duty or sleeper.

    Ok an example. You start your 14 at 0800, you stop at 1200 and take an 8 hour sleeper break. When you come back on duty at 2000 you will still have 10 of your 14 left. at 0000 (midnight) you stop and take a 2 hour break. At the start of this break you have 6 of your 14 left. At 0200 you completed the split berth and your 14 resets to the end of your first 8 hour break so at 0200 you now have 8 of your 14 left.

    You can use the split in any oreder, 8 then 2 or 2 then 8 and you can string them together theoretically never taking a full 10 hour break at 1 time. I'm finding it's giving me much more flexibility in when i drive. Should I wish to drive at night and it's 1400 I merely find a spot to park and take 8 in the sleeper then drive without losing time (if delivery/pickup apt allows).

    I know the split berth sounds complicated but if you just follow a few simple rules, I will refresh them....

    The split sleeper is comprised of 2 breaks of 8 and 2 hours.

    The 8 hour break suspends the 14 and HAS to be logged all sleeper berth.

    The 2 hour break can be any combination of sleeper/off duty and it does NOT suspend the 14.

    The 14 resets at the end of the FIRST break. So if you take the 8 and it ends at 1200 then take a 2 at 1600 your 14 resets to 1200 meaning it will end at 0200 if no other qualifying breaks are taken.
    You can take the breaks in any order, 8 then 2 or 2 then 8. And you can chain them together 2, 8, 2, 8, etc...

    Does that make sense?
     
  6. gravdigr

    gravdigr Road Train Member

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    Just a note I do not recommend using the split berth on paper logs unless you understand it fully and are better than average at math. It can get you in trouble. If you use elogs or an eobe the computer will calculate this for you automatically and add the hours, but it helps to know what will be added and when so you don't find yourself stuck parked for an appointment you could have made if you scheduled your breaks properly. This is advanced logbooking and not for the newbie or someone not good with math and planning.
     
  7. double yellow

    double yellow Road Train Member

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    What is optimal depends on the run length:

     
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  8. gravdigr

    gravdigr Road Train Member

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    nice table, gives good info on delivery time info. I haven't broke it down that much since I have only been back otr 12 days after a 5 month break.
     
  9. skootertrashr6

    skootertrashr6 Medium Load Member

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    Please link to where it says you can do split sleeper in any order. I thought it was always 8 hours sleeper first followed by a separate 2 hour off duty/sleeper or any combination of either to satisfy the requirements for split sleeper.

    (g) Sleeper berths—(1) Property-carrying commercial motor vehicle—(i) In General. A driver who operates a property-carrying commercial motor vehicle equipped with a sleeper berth, as defined in §§395.2 and 393.76 of this subchapter,
    (A) Must, before driving, accumulate
    (1) At least 10 consecutive hours off duty;
    (2) At least 10 consecutive hours of sleeper-berth time;
    (3) A combination of consecutive sleeper-berth and off-duty time amounting to at least 10 hours; or
    (4) The equivalent of at least 10 consecutive hours off duty if the driver does not comply with paragraph (g)(1)(i)(A)(1), (2), or (3) of this section;
    (B) May not drive more than the driving limit specified in §395.3(a)(3)(i) following one of the 10-hour off-duty periods specified in paragraph (g)(1)(i)(A)(1) through (4) of this section. After June 30, 2013, however, driving is permitted only if 8 hours or fewer have passed since the end of the driver's last off-duty break or sleeper-berth period of at least 30 minutes; and
    (C) May not drive for more than the period specified in §395.3(a)(2) after coming on duty following one of the 10-hour off-duty periods specified in paragraph (g)(1)(i)(A)(1)–(4) of this section; and
    (D) Must exclude from the calculation of the 14-hour period in §395.3(a)(2) any sleeper-berth period of at least 8 but less than 10 consecutive hours.
    (ii) Specific requirements. The following rules apply in determining compliance with paragraph (g)(1)(i) of this section:
    (A) The term “equivalent of at least 10 consecutive hours off duty” means a period of (1) At least 8 but less than 10 consecutive hours in a sleeper berth, and
    (2) A separate period of at least 2 but less than 10 consecutive hours either in the sleeper berth or off duty, or any combination thereof.
    (B) Calculation of the driving limit includes all driving time; compliance must be re-calculated from the end of the first of the two periods used to comply with paragraph (g)(1)(ii)(A) of this section.
     
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  10. double yellow

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    You can. I've bolded the relevant sections.


    Nite the last line -- compliance calculated from the first of two periods -- does not specify that a particular period comes first (and when you roll into subsequent 8/2 splits the calculation rolls forwars to start at the next break).
     
  11. gravdigr

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    What he said^^^^ I've done it both ways and it works fine.
     
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