30-minute dot break

And they are all wrong on their policy. When it comes to logging the only correct answer is "log it as you do it". Elogs make this easy to get right, but paper logs just flag less than 15, and graph more than.
Now their policy could state "it takes a minimum of 15 to do a proper pretrip, so this is the least time we will accept." That means you need to take 15 minutes doing a pretrip. No, logging a 15 minute pretrip while eating a bowl of cereal for breakfast is not doing a 15 minute pretrip.

 

That was back 6 years ago before e logs anyway. And yes, i log it as i do it, usually 8-10 min, but only out on the road. At the yard it's usually 20 min to do a full pretrip.

 

Inspections are on duty time. So, you would be in violation cause the break has to be off duty.

 

Yes.

 

What a fountain of misguided pondering and unnecessarysation in this 7 pages. E-logs now guys...goes to the minute with a minimum of 5 minutes (it reverts to previous duty status if you click to change duty status in less than 5-minute increment...at least Qualcomm does). So whereas on paper logs you may "flag" under 15-minutes, no longer the case., are you gonna convince me any type of inspection you do is less than 5-minutes??? so you log the actual minutes on your e-log. Ok one more concept, one way to say it is anything in life no worries until you get caught, questioned, or an issue...in other words god forbid you get rammed from behind by a car while stopped at a stop light....no way is your fault. However then your e-log gets examined and they see flags and personal fouls and I mean you do what ever you want but that 0.001% of the time when it gets called in to question for serious....you will be hanging over the abyss.