I have a 3406B with the same problem. I am selling this truck and don't want to put a lot more time/money into it but don't want to rip off the buyer either. Is it crucial to remove all of the old studs? If so what is the best way of getting them out (at least till they break)
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3406 exhaust manifold stud hole depth
Discussion in 'Heavy Duty Diesel Truck Mechanics Forum' started by Gumper, Jul 3, 2019.
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Don’t waste time with bolt extractors. They break and your in for twice the work.
Left handed drill bit is your friend.
Use a jig that will center you on the broken stud. If that’s not available use a center punch, and be very patient keeping centered on the stud. Drill straight!
Holes are about 7/8 deep. Don’t go through into the water jacket.
Try to keep the bit smaller than the size needed to retap the holes. I was able to salvage 3/4 holes without a helicoil.
Other than the broken stud removal it’s a simple job. Can have the manifold off and on in half an hour. -
Thanks Gumper, I've read this entire thread and you have gone through the wringer!
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I put new nuts on. If I did it again I’d use aftermarket parts. For 6 exhaust gaskets, one exhaust sleeve, bag of studs, bag of nuts, thermostat housing gasket, three stud spacers, and a turbo return line o-ring it was $330. I’d use softer bolts from the hardware store next time so when they inevitably brake they are easier to remove. The torque spec is 28 ft lbs, and the lock nuts keep them from loosening up. The manifold is suppose to be able to expand and contract so it doesn’t break the studs. Make sure your slip joints aren’t bound up. I pulled my manifold apart to wire brush them then coated the joints with anti-seize. So far it’s working good. -
What is the best way of getting the old nuts off. I have been soaking them in PB blaster and wondered if I should use and impact wrench to loosen them or a hard whack with a hammer or heat to the head?
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This is turning into a nightmare job. The exhaust manifold is off but two more studs broke when I tried to remove them so now I have 4 that need to be drilled out.
Gumper, did you use a tap to clean out the existing holes or did you drill and tap a larger hole? -
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How were you able to start the tap on the threads so it didn't booger up the threads?
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