4m experiance... w/ 3 preventable

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by jasin18, Jan 1, 2009.

  1. Pur48Ted

    Pur48Ted Road Train Member

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    It really has NOTHING TO DO with "he wasn't smart enough", and really, how could you make a statement like that. It has MORE to do with was there something the driver did that caused the accident or could have done to avoid it.
    There was a case a few years ago, where a trucker was passing a 4 wheeler on a snow-covered road. As the truck was along-side the car, the car started fish-tailing and hit the truck. (no injuries) The Company determined it was a "preventable", the driver FOUGHT that determination thru some Federal Agency and had that determination reversed. The Federal Agency determined that the Act of Passing another vehicle was NOT the cause of the accident and the driver could not foresee the accident.

    So, as my statement says: it IS possible to have a PREVENTABLE accident changed to a NON-PREVENTABLE accident.

    Having an accident while Backing up WOULD not be a non-preventable; HOWEVER, the accident where he was hit in the landing-gear MIGHT be (non-preventable).
     
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  3. jasin18

    jasin18 Bobtail Member

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    Jasin acts like all of his accidents weren't serious in nature.

    Because hitting a pole is life threatining.

    Have you already forgotten the three incidents in the first four months you've recently been involved in?

    I thought you were the smart one? You didn't relize that it went without saying, i have had no accidents BEFORE DRIVING A BIG TRUCK?

    Your lessons seem to be rather expensive ---
    for the truckin' company.
    Would you be willing to accept complete responsibility --- including paying out of YOUR own pocket for any and ALL damage you do to any equipment assigned to you, --- or cause to other equipment?


    I WAS!!! but the company said that they do not do that, i was willing to pay for ALL damages i have caused because i wanted to keep my job, and prove to them i can do this. Not because i want to, because i have to, and without a 500 week job, i'll be on the streets.

    Not mad, upset, shaken-up, stirred, or ANYthing?
    Hmmmmmmmmm
    Kinda sounds like you.


    My actual words were "did he just freakin hit me?" Thats how far away he was when he tagged me, i wasn't rushing out worried that something was going to hit me, it was just a regular right hand turn, just like anyone elses, it could of happend even to you!

    "XPlod" System?
    Well of course you wanted to keep your job, as well.


    That doesn't make any sense, now your just taking everything i say and quoting it.

    I think most of us here have never had three incidents in four months, ..... or anything.

    I bet most of the people that do, dont come on here asking for advice and getting a jerk for answers. Havent you heard the expression, if you dont have anything nice to say, dont say anything at all?

    You've only been drivin' Big trucks for a couple of months, ---
    and already it's "your life" and "what you do"?
    Imagine that.
    Now imagine this
    The problem is, you seem to hit objects while doin' what'cha do, and worse yet ---
    You don't seem to think it's a big deal when you do.


    Once again i thought you were the smart one. I never said anything about driving a truck for life, i just said driving. My dream is to be a race car driver, and driving a truck is what i need to do to make good money to get there because you cant apply to become a race car driver, you have to buy that stuff yourself, so unless you know of a place, please let me know. Or sense you are so worried about me being on the road, please send me the money so i can do that instead! and of course im gonna wreck it, do you know of any ammiture racer that hasn't wrecked is first ride? But i can promise to make it last for as long as i can. hopfully by the time i do, i will have already made money from it. Oh and if i become famous, i'll be sure to send you your money back :biggrin_25525:

    Please define "never", "close", "serious" and "accident", --- and may as well include "fault" while you're thinkin' 'bout it.

    The car comming across the street while having a green arrow i define Close.

    Tell me YOU weren't driving that '06 Cobalt that about got "taken out". :biggrin_2555:
    And if you were, let me guess ---
    it wasn't YOUR fault -- this time -- either.
    :biggrin_25512:

    No, i wasn't, my wife was. And how could you say "let me guess it wasn't your fault" as in sarcasm when we had the green arrow? You sound a little ignorant to me.:biggrin_25519:

    Thanks for the advice, i have learned something though, just ignore the ones that love to cause problems.
     
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  4. AfterShock

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    Thar ya GO!
    Gotta "love" 'em though.
    Right?

    Have a nice day, Jasin. :biggrin_25519:
    And, ....... be CAREFUL out thar!
    Hear?
     
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  5. panhandlepat

    panhandlepat Road Train Member

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    jasin, let me first say that knowing shockey like i do...
    he puts ALOT of thought into his posts and attempts (usually sucessfully:biggrin_25525:) to be witty which sometimes crosses into the sarcasm territory.
    NOW, with that said..
    your record is a BIG deal to these companies.3 preventables in 4 months shows up on your DAC as JUST THAT. nothing more nothing less. i have had the misfortune of having 2 MINOR incidents on my DAC in the 2 years i have been driving. (very stupid, in a hurry or frustrated) totalling LESS than 500$$$ between the 2.
    guess what, it says 2 preventable accidents on my DAC! not very minor preventables, not less than 250 each..
    now we could tell you "ohh everything will be fine"
    OR "sure that wont be a problem"
    BUT that would be a huge disjustice (is that the word i'm looking for?) or disservice (maybe that one) to this site and yourself for us to lie to you about it!!
    CAN you find another Co. that will hire you?
    POSSIBLY. but it will be hard to find. just keep trying if you REALLY WANT to do this, about all ya CAN do.
     
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  6. GasHauler

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    I'm sorry but you're no professional driver. I really don't care if you want to hear this or not because I hope other new drivers will see this and know the score. Have you ever heard of defensive driving or watch out for the other guy. You should place yourself in a position that allows yourself a way out. You may think a minor bump hear and there is no big deal but it paints a picture of your driving habits. And besides that how do you know something you can't see didn't get damaged that may cause a big deal?

    Your record is a rarity AND an indicator. I'll bet if you took a 1000 drivers that have more than a year driving you might find 1 or 2 with 3 accidents in 4 months if any. You may think some accidents are not serious or have a degree of severity but the industry does not think that way. They look at your ability and how you operate that very expensive truck in a safe manner. Not only that, your company will look at your attitude towards the accidents and you fail miserably. Even saying that the other driver totalled his car on purpose because of the way he was acting and what is was driving is beyong ludicrous.

    You'll never consider yourself an unsafe driver but your record indicates you have alot to learn. I don't know if you'll wait and take another shot at driving a truck but if you do I suggest you taking a defensive driving course that is set up for trucks. Then you might learn a few critical maneuvers like leaving yourself a way out, watching the other guy, make sure you're seen, aim high in your steering, and a few others. Then maybe you'll know what we're talking about. Until then good luck in your professional racing career.
     
  7. jasin18

    jasin18 Bobtail Member

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    yeah, they call it the smith system. I honestly dont like driving a combination vehical. For many reasons, one being if i miss your turn which i have 100's of times, its very difficult to find a place to do a U turn at, you cant really go anywhere to eat but at truck stops, and if you come over a hill and see nothing but stopped cars, its very scarry because you have to stop that thing that weights almost 80,000 in a very short time.. i been there once, thank goodness for a shoulder. I just dont like it, i do believe it is to much responsiblity for me, atleast for my age, maybe later in years to come. I've seen these panther trucks that is a single vehical but has wheels like a big truck, like a moving van or something, id like to drive one of those, it has a sleeper and everything. Just start off small, and work my way up in years to come.

    And for after shocks post on

    No, i wasn't, my wife was.

    So, are you blaming your wife?
    Is she aware of that?
    You might be in the Dawghouse.


    um i wasn't blaming me or her.. i was blaming them.. because we had the green arrow... again... there isn't much to argue who was at fualt when we had a green arrow, and they had a red light and ran it.. its pretty obvious. My wife was DRIVING THE CAR. Sense i did buy it for her, i still drive my 92 Z24 with holes in the convertible top.. its great :biggrin_25520: I love that car, it just has like a bunch of problems with it though.

    Anyways yeah, in 3 years the records will be taken away and i'll get a chance again if i want to again, who knows where i'll be in 3 years.. i could be driving lemos for all i know, not that i would ever want to. I dont really know what i want to do, something that involves driving... i've been delivering the past week now with only one lense in my glasses because the other fell out and went down the toilet because i have to, if i didn't till my new ones came, we wouldn't be able to pay the bills so yeah, if i can drive with only one eye.... you still dont think i can drive? :biggrin_25525:


     
  8. jasin18

    jasin18 Bobtail Member

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    Aim High in steering
    Get the big picture
    Keep your eyes moving
    Leave yourself an out
    Make sure they see you

    Yeah i still remember it, we had to memorize it, i learn things easy with abbrivations, i rememberd this one easy because the last 3 is KLM which was the company i worked for, heh, all i had to do was just remember AG

    Like saying the Alphabet Backwards! Haha, wanna learn? well we all know XYZ is the last 3 so ZYX then u take the two states, West Virgina, and Utah.. ZYX.. WVUT.. the next 2 is just Sr. without the I, then Coupon, but spelled Qpon, so we got ZYX..WVUT..Sr..Qpon.. the next 3 was also easy because its KLM backwards.. mlk or milk, whichever is easy for you, the next 4 i could not come up with anything, i just had to remember jihg, like dig but with a j, so jihg, that was my only hard part, then fed, as in you fed your dog.. f e d. then cba that one just comes natural, so we got Zyx..wvut..sr..qpon..mlk..jihg...fed..cba BAM you got it! now you can say the alphabet backwards while drunk if this situation ever occurs. Yeah, i had alot of time to think while driving :biggrin_255:
     
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    AfterShock Road Train Member

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    HeY!
    That's pretty good. :yes2557:
    I wouldn't be surprised if that method would work for many
    others.

    Good tip, Jasin!
    ThanX!
    :salute:
     
  10. GasHauler

    GasHauler Master FMCSA Interpreter

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    So you AIM HIGH with just one eye??? Is that the test to see if you can drive or not? And to hell with the green arrow. They were at fault. Just think you could have gotten a new car or something. And so what if anyone got hurt because you had the green arrow. Hear that big sigh of relief? That's me knowing that you'll not be behind the wheel of a truck for 3 years. And please let us know if you do drive again so we'll know where not to be. 24, maybe 14.
     
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    GasHauler Master FMCSA Interpreter

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    Yes, I still think you CAN NOT drive. Just by reading your postings it's very obvious that you have no clue what the difference in professional driving and just making a truck go down the road. You are what the industry calls a steering wheel holder and we are all better off for your three accidents in four months. God help us all if you drive again.
     
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