5 axle tractor? Worth it or not?

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  1. DSLT&T

    DSLT&T Bobtail Member

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    Been tossing the idea around. Got a rig with a 325wb. Pusher axle set at 10'6" giving me 43,500 allowable weight. Been plenty of times I've been at 48k and had to redistribute weight to legalize the tractor. Would adding a 2nd 1500lb pusher set at 12' (giving me 50k allowable weight on the drives and 2 pushers) be worth it?

    My tractor and trailer set up is 34,500k tare. Im running 105,500lb NW region. I can lift every axle on the trailer (pick and choose which rubber to melt into the black top). The extra weight on the drives would allow me to carry more weight vs pulling it.

    Just looking for thoughts. Been rolling around my head. Haven't seen the mega carriers doing it so must not be worth it, but still looking for thoughts from O/O.
     
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  3. Opendeckin

    Opendeckin Medium Load Member

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    Idk how you are going to fit 2 pusher axles on a 225" wheel base. You gonna use the second pusher as a step to get out of the truck?
     
  4. DSLT&T

    DSLT&T Bobtail Member

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    Correction. 325. I was talking to a buddy of mine, he wants 255 rear ends.
     
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  5. Oxbow

    Oxbow Road Train Member

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    Maybe I'm missing something, but if you can gross 105500 now, you will cut your net by the weight of the additional axles, and getting the weight up front might be difficult. Are you thinking of removing trailer axles?

    I agree with the idea that carrying weight is easier than pulling it, but it seems the whole configuration would need to be changed to work.
     
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  6. snowwy

    snowwy Road Train Member

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    Depends on where you run. And whether state allows it.

    Flying j has a couple oil trucks with 2 pushers and 6 axle trailers i believe. They might be converting from doubles to single. I don't run around the refineries these days so I don't know what they're doing.

    You might look at the bridge and seeing if the one you already have can be moved forward. Not all trucks have the drop close to the drives. Some have a little extra spacing. I don't know what the weight allowance would be for the extra spacing. All mine have been right next to the drives.
     
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  7. Long FLD

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    How much weight do you currently carry on your steer axle when you’re loaded? What’s your 7 axle bridge? Might be such a thing that you need to move your current lift axle ahead so you can get under your trailer more without cutting your 7 axle bridge down too much.

    If you can actually bridge 105k currently then an extra axle will do nothing but cut down your payload.
     
  8. Long FLD

    Long FLD Road Train Member

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    I’ll amend my statement. I’m not sure where you run but adding an axle will increase your overall gross in UT WY MT, I’m not sure how ID and NV would handle 9 axles versus 8. WA would still be 105 and OR would probably still be 102 or whatever you can currently gross.
     
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  9. Oxbow

    Oxbow Road Train Member

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    Idaho now allows up to 129 if you can bridge/axle it. The excess weight permit covers all divisible loads over 80k gross. @BlackjackCo runs a lot of NV and UT over 80K I think, maybe he knows for NV.
     
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  10. Oxbow

    Oxbow Road Train Member

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    Here is a calculator provided by Idaho Transportation Department:

    Legal_Weight_Calculator.xlsx

    This will allow one to figure the benefit of extra axles, at least in Idaho.

    I should add that the 129K is not on all highways.
     
  11. DSLT&T

    DSLT&T Bobtail Member

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    I can net 71k, just not legally. Bridge from drives to trailer axles is legal for 91k.
     
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