70 hour question.

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Owner's Operator, Nov 10, 2008.

  1. panhandlepat

    panhandlepat Road Train Member

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    duhhhhhh! LOL can it be off duty? whether going to get an MT or going to eat/walmart/ etc?
     
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  3. Lurchgs

    Lurchgs Road Train Member

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    yes, though that can be touchy.. but if you aren't under dispatch, the tractor can be viewed as a POV. Going to pick up an MT,though, would probably fall into the duty/driving category.

    Be easier to drop trailer at a stop and Bobtail around, I think.

    What do you think, Psanderson?
     
  4. ZiggyPhugno

    ZiggyPhugno Bobtail Member

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    I don't log bobtail unless I'm between loggable loads, but running bobtail to p/u another load better be logged, else how do you explain how you got there?
     
  5. Working Class Patriot

    Working Class Patriot Road Train Member

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    You can log "Off duty/ driving" IIRC
    Bob-tailing not deadheading......
     
  6. RickG

    RickG Road Train Member

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    Is that line 5 ??
     
  7. psanderson

    psanderson Road Train Member

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    The word bobtailing may take on many meanings but usually the term means without a trailer. But within that bobtailing can mean bobtailing while under dispatch e.g. you were dispatched to get a trailer at which time you would show this time on the driving line (line 3) and must adhere to the 11, 14, and 60/70 hour rules.

    If you were not under dispatch e.g. using the tractor to drive home after you were released from duty it is off duty & the same as driving your car.

    Either way though you must report the miles on a trip report for reporting under the rules of the International Fuel Tax Agreement (IFTA). Under the IFTA rules you must report all miles driven in any state or province for whatever reason.
     
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  8. Working Class Patriot

    Working Class Patriot Road Train Member

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    Line 1 according to trooper Monty Dial from a "Loading Dock" show.
    Log it on Line 1 and flag it as "Off Duty/ Driving".

    How do you Company drivers do it when you bobtail from your terminal to your house?

    http://www.olblueusa.org/AskTheLaw/TrooperDial.html
     
  9. lostNfound

    lostNfound Road Train Member

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    I've been using my own log pages ... I think I'll include line 5. :biggrin_25523:
     
  10. DBL_TIME

    DBL_TIME <strong>"Two Mints in One"</strong>

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    According to my understanding the only line you can have a violation on concerning HOS is line 3. Right? That's the eaisiest way for me to look at it because in the regs. It only list driving more than 11 driving after 14 driving after 60/70 which ever system you run.
     
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  11. ParkRanger

    ParkRanger Light Load Member

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    Actually, Say you go on duty at 5AM, not driving (line 4), sit around a loading dock until noon. You can only drive for 7 hours because anything over that would be over your 14 hours that you would be allowed to drive in.
     
    psanderson Thanks this.
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