9 - 10 mpg

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by TheEnglishMan, Apr 26, 2013.

  1. Blind Driver

    Blind Driver Road Train Member

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    I don't know exactly what Prime offers, but I have talked to a few lease drivers. What I understand is Prime offers 100% fsc. I also get 100% fsc, but with a better discount. I fuel at the advertised price of $3.95, but only get charged maybe $3.70 and sometimes much less. Several Prime drivers that I have talked to told me they pay the advertised cash price.

    Keep in mind this is what I have been told by the Prime drivers.

    I'm sure Prime is getting a good discount, but may not be passing on the entire discount to their lease driver nor the O/O.
     
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  3. Dice1

    Dice1 Road Train Member

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    The rate has nothing to do with cutting operating cost to increase the profit.

    You must be new to making business decisions or not involved in the process of making them to ignore the biggest expemse in operating a truck?
     
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  4. truckon

    truckon Swamp Thing

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    Just a newbie...he'll figure it out one day.
     
  5. sazook

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    The Prime drivers you spoke to were mistaken. Prime gets enormous discounts on fuel and passes them 100% on to the operators.

    $20 says the drivers you talked to will be on here in the next month complaining about how Prime screwed them when the real issue was that they didn't have a clue what their costs were or what they were paying for.
     
  6. TheEnglishMan

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    The goofy aero gimmicks at not gimmicks. Getting the air to travel freely and undisturbed around the truck, creating as little drag as possible is the key. The boat tail has the biggest influence on this. They may look unsightly but it works. if you wanted it to work 100% you would actually have it continue further back than it does and end in point. All this aero add on stuff is nothing new. If you do some google digging about you can find full scale truck and trailer wind tunnel testing dating back to 2006 that confirms the benefits.

    Here's a link that I found regarding some Canadian testing:

    http://www.freightwing.com/docs/NRC_Wind_Tunnel_Test_SAE_Paper.pdf

    What I forgot to ask the MVT driver is if the tranny was direct or not and what the rear end gears are. Based on him saying that at 65mph he is at 1500 rpm, that would put him very similar to my specs .78 od with 3.58 rears. I am sure however that you could get a similar speed/rpm with a direct drive setup. I'm pretty sure they are 10 speed, which I believe would make them od trannies. As has been noted already, the single drive axle has a huge impact on the mpg. He had trailer super singles on the tag axle.

    the main reason for the original posting was that we are constantly hearing from Kevin Rutherford to slow down and lower the rpm. The slower we go the better mpg we will get, so run at 57 or 55 if you can. MVT's operation completed disproves this on a large scale. I have played around with my truck so many times and I find that it gets the best mpg at 65 mph/1500 rpm, volvo d12 with zf freedomline. I've been told it's too fast and too high on the rpm. If I drop down the turbo boosts more and the mpg drops of dramatically. My fuel numbers confirm this time and time again.

    I think what all us OO can learn from MVT operation is that the aero stuff works, including the wheel covers. No matter what tractor you run, if you have your own trialer get some aerodynamic upgrades.

    From experience, the SmartTruck under tray system is NOT as good as side skirts.

    RE fuel discounts....Landstar gets a huge discount with TA.
     
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  7. Blind Driver

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    That is possible. The guys I talked to seem very happy and are making money, but I would like to compare fuel receipts as my Mercer discounts are pretty good.
     
  8. Mr. PlumCrazy

    Mr. PlumCrazy Road Train Member

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    Well I guess I get better discounts than you and prime I only pay $3.37 a gal
     
  9. crb

    crb Road Train Member

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    I believe their 9400's were direct drive. I also believe they run automatics
     
  10. Scania man

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    Its almost $10 a gal at home in Ireland right now
     
  11. PackRatTDI

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    They were using 10 speed direct drive transmissions and 2.50 rear ends on their prostars.
     
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