A question about CR. England

Discussion in 'CR England' started by WI Newbie, May 4, 2010.

  1. AfterShock

    AfterShock Road Train Member

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    YeaH, you're right, Izi.
    The silence is deafening.
    :silent:
    I sure hope all's well.

    :director2::director:~~~~ YO! Mister Cornileous .........................
    Are you in the audience?
    It's right about here -----> X that we start to worry. :smt087:sad11::sad1:
    Seriously.
    :smt045
    (Too) many times, this is how it ends.
    I certainly hope that's not the case with WINewbie.
    :-|
     
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  3. dragonmatrix

    dragonmatrix Medium Load Member

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    Maybe he doesnt have a laptop ? :dontknow:
     
  4. izifaddag

    izifaddag Medium Load Member

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    Unfortunately you are right. IF he was 'accepted' and IF he made it through their so called 'training' he could well be out on his first cheap labor stint now - sorry training stint my bad.

    Could be you are right. However the likelihood is that anybody who is savvy enough to have made it onto this forum prior to 'joining up' in such a lucid and intelligent manner has a laptop.
     
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  5. lovesthedrive

    lovesthedrive R.I.P.

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    Grin, when you get there to the dump of a hotel. Look at the wonderful yellow poles at the end of the driveway. Some were laid on their sides when I was there. This is because the trainer has to see how much paint you can scrape off of the truck.

    Good luck to you tho, I really do hope the best for you, but aslo dont think you will get it.

    Its not your fault they treat us the way the company does.
     
  6. WI Newbie

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    Went to refresher course.
    I went to the burns harbor refresher course. But check this out, I was one of the people who had the top average score in my class so I was moved into the flex program. It was an opportunity to get some driving experience before I graduated. I then graduated and was waiting in the motel for an instuctor for my phase 1. I then got a call from the recruiter who said that CRE couldn't hire me right now because my regular drivers license had expired in 2008 and I didn't renew it until 2009. I checked out the F.M.C.S.R. handbook and it clearly states that a company must check out the driving record for the last three years ending on the date of application for employment. What it says is no suspensions, revocations, or cancelled for cause. NO WHERE DOES IT SAY THAT IT IS ILLEGAL NOT TO HAVE A DRIVERS LICENSE FOR A YEAR. The way I see it the recruiter dropped the ball and I should not have to pay for the refresher course.



     
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  7. izifaddag

    izifaddag Medium Load Member

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    Ahh the pleasures of CR England.
    It doesn't take much for them to screw you over does it? Was I right or was I right?
    They don't want you dude! There is some reason which they are not going to tell you a mere peon. You know what a peon is don't you? It is someone who is p'd on!
    ALL companies twist the rules to suit themselves. CRE have not broken the rules merely taken them to a new level.
    Here is another example.
    At Crete where I work I have to log 1/2 hr for every d&h, load or unload. The DOT only require 1/4 hr for any event as above. However my company can stiffen the rules should they so wish and they so wish.
    This drives the guys crazy because it eats up our hours. However Crete pays well so it all evens out.
    Keep us posted and please don't give up. It is a monster breaking into the world of trucking but once you are in it all works out. Good luck.:biggrin_25511:
     
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  8. diggergreg

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    Just my .02 cents, you turned in your H-6 or is it H-10 I don't remember your ten year driving record to them right? Now did they put in writing they would hire you upon complition of the course, that you are now reponsible to pay them for? If the answer is yes to both questions then I'm sure you have more than a reasonable complant. And I for one would take it up the management chain in a reasonable manner. Your goal was for job first. Keep your head and don't forget this. Be reasonable and listen to what they have to say when confronted with the facts of situation. Please give us an update. Diggergreg
     
  9. AfterShock

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    A "reasonable complaint"?
    A "reasonable manner"?
    "Be reasonable"?

    How "reasonable" is it to try to "reason" with the powers that be C.R. England? To think that CRE would respond to "reason" is unreasonable. Y'all are treatin' this as though there was some mistake made by CRE. I hate to be the one to burst a dream bubble, but Izi hit the head right on the nail, ...... see below.............

    B I N G O !

    CRE's Damage Prevention and Control Department saw a red flag for WI Newbie.

    Taking a refresher course suggests WI Newbie has previous experience drivin' a Big truck. Experience to CRE is like sunlight to a vampire, ---- something to fear and avoid. To allow anyone with experience to mingle with the brain-washed, gullible newbies is just askin' for disaster. A previously experienced driver could clue those newbies with stars in their eyes in on the way thangs really are in this industry. A little knowledge can be a dangerous thing and can open the doors to questions CRE would prefer to avoid answering.
    Decision time.

    CRE decides if it's worth taking the risk of a mutiny by many drivers, just to extort a few more bucks from WI Newbie. It seems CRE's decision was to cut bait now, and count their profit already made, and be satisfied.
    All that's needed to complete the removal of a potential trouble maker is some reason, ANY reason. CRE's reason doesn't have to be factual or truthful to have an armed guard escort a CRE reject to the exit gate.

    Once kicked to the curb, and now standin' on the outside lookin' in, what is there to gain by proving CRE's "reason" for cutting a driver loose wasn't correct?
    An apology?
    Be reinstated as a driver in good standings?
    To be able to say I told you so ?

    IMO, bein' outside the gate lookin' in at CRE is better than a front row seat, --- just past the metal detector. After a taste test, and now aware of the ingredients CRE uses, who in their right mind would even consider driving a red Big truck for sons of Chester?

    Those of y'all who think CRE is run by a bunch of stupid people prone to makin' mistakes, think again.
    They aren't stupid. What they do has been studied, planned and executed with precision. The more they do it, the more they perfect the ways they do it, using any and every trick in the book known to generate profit for the company. They've carefully studied various personalities and traits, profiled, if you will, to determine a target audience of folks easily impressed by smoke and mirrors, and who accept bait and switch without question, --- and hire them. Strong-willed independent thinkers --- need not apply.

    C.R. England is not in business to provide jobs.
    And they're not really in business to relocate freight.
    NopE.
    C.R. England is in business to make a profit, .... the bigger the profit, the better.
    If some freight gets relocated by a few drivers employed there, it's just a cost of doin' business. If CRE could ignore the customers and leave their shipments sittin' on the dock, and still get paid, ----- what do y'all think CRE would do?
     
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  10. izifaddag

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    I just wanted to slightly address this point. I can't speak for the protocol at Burns Harbor but at SLC on the first day everybody is lined up to go in and see this gentleman. He is supposedly some kind of soothsayer I think with a military background. His job is to sit alone with you for a moment so as to monitor your body language, facial expression etc.
    He asks you questions like:
    Have you ever taken drugs?
    Are you now or have you ever been a member of the communist party? etc.
    It is laughable. Like that can't be overcome.
    Never in my life have I been subjected to the malarkey that CRE come up with to get a job. I am not just talking about the actual process of learning how to drive a truck - which is why we are actually there right?
    Nope! The somersaults that are required to be employed by these bozos would make you think you were trying to get into NASA not a truck company.
    The process is ruthless and it is easy to get tossed for something real, perceived or just imagined.
    There was one guy there they hired just so they could fire him. They wanted his reason for being given the bullet on his DAC report!! Yes I kid you not.
    Oh CRE !!!!!! Where is Al Quaida when you really need them!:biggrin_255:
     
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