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Easy Steamer · Dec 23, 2012

Chucktaylor said: ↑

Here's the straight dope from someone who's been a company driver instructor an trainer for over 6 years.

im gonna regret this because someone is going to confused by it and later question it or refer to it as some sort of policy they believe to be current.

*****the following is no longer Prime training policy****

training mileage requirement was 60k to go company, and 80k to lease.

That is where that 4-6 month estimate came from.

10k credit has always been given to PSD grads.

So at that time a trainee could complete 60k and ether upgrade to company driver or stay on the trainers truck for an additional 20k and either upgrade to a lease, or Company driver under a higher pay rate.

60k upgrades could solo the last 20k as a company driver and then either stay company with their first pay raise or go lease.

the advantage with doing the 20k with a trainer was it was team miles and you could either get to lease quicker or your first company pay raise faster.

basically they have cut the training mileage requirement in half and did it about 3-4 years ago

****the information contained in the majority of this post is in reference to a Prime policy that was in effect YEARS ago. Anyone who thinks these policies are current or repeats these in any subsequent post about Prime on this website, is a moron who has ZERO reading comprehension. This simply an explanation where a currently inaccurate training time estimate came from******

Anyone taking bets how long before some says "i read it somewhere recently it was 80k..."?
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Nope you are on the money Chuck, People need to see the up to date stuff and the websit did a disservice to this guy by being incorrect

Easy Steamer · Dec 23, 2012

Chucktaylor said: ↑

I have to concur with your numbers. Most weeks are under, but close to 5k. However someone here swears there are teams getting 7k miles every week.

Now Now, I NEVER said every week, I said I averaged it when I trained, and I know people who do it regularly.
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ironpony · Dec 23, 2012

Chucktaylor said: ↑

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****the information contained in the majority of this post is in reference to a Prime policy that was in effect YEARS ago. Anyone who thinks these policies are current or repeats these in any subsequent post about Prime on this website, is a moron who has ZERO reading comprehension. This simply an explanation where a currently inaccurate training time estimate came from******

Anyone taking bets how long before some says "i read it somewhere recently it was 80k..."?
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About a week... LOL!

Chucktaylor said: ↑

I have to concur with your numbers. Most weeks are under, but close to 5k. However someone here swears there are teams getting 7k miles every week.

I have met people at Prime terminal who make some outrageous mileage claims...
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Those "trucker stories" have to start somewhere...

Oh, a lease trainer is about revenue and not miles.
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Darn tootin'! More miles mean more expense. Trainees get through it faster on a company truck.

Lastly, backing at every shipper and receiver is great training, but the biggest complaint to a FM when things go wrong between a trainer and trainee is the trainee claiming he was forced to work off the clock and falsify logs. The reality being that not every backing evolution falls on the trainees shift.
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Yup... you guys are setting yourself up for a fall when you do the trainee a "favor" and let him back into a dock on your hours. Personal integrity goes right out the window when many trainees get themselves in a bind.

So... here's a question for the trainers: Do you think the training program turns out a better product with the lower miles/shorter training period?

Sly48 · Dec 23, 2012

Chucktaylor said: ↑

I have to concur with your numbers. Most weeks are under, but close to 5k. However someone here swears there are teams getting 7k miles every week.

I have met people at Prime terminal who make some outrageous mileage claims, they typically make an excuse when I politely ask to see some settlements or ask for their truck number... Or they swear up and down that to have my FM check their mileage numbers for me is a fireable offense. (It's not, and he doesn't give the exact weekly numbers, he gives the 4 week and 90 day average)

Oh, a lease trainer is about revenue and not miles.

Lastly, backing at every shipper and receiver is great training, but the biggest complaint to a FM when things go wrong between a trainer and trainee is the trainee claiming he was forced to work off the clock and falsify logs. The reality being that not every backing evolution falls on the trainees shift.
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For the record, I'm not telling my FM anything...If things don't go as I think they should...I just suck it up and get over it because I know it's only temporary.

ironpony · Dec 23, 2012

Unless you have a reason, its better to work the relationship with your FM a positive way.

Chessguy · Dec 24, 2012

Sly48 said: ↑

For the record, I'm not telling my FM anything...If things don't go as I think they should...I just suck it up and get over it because I know it's only temporary.
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If my trainer doesn't want to train me to succeed, hell yes, someone will hear about it.

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