Am I done??

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Michael White, Feb 19, 2016.

  1. lfod14

    lfod14 Road Train Member

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    Fair or unfair is besides the point. You work in a DOT environment and hold a CDL, on top of the fact that thier legally REQUIRED to have you in the testing pool you knew the rules when you signed for your CDL.
     
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  3. pilot trucker

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  4. BB203

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    I got to agree mostly with this one. Companies are careful about what they say about former employees because they can be sued if they say anything that they don't have documented proof of. So this is why they use the old stand by.. They answer only the following...Hire date, termination date and eligibility for re-hire. Not eligible for rehire is code for "we fired him and we don't want him back". Most do not want to get into a conversation as to why. If it was a failed drug test the hiring company would get that off his DAC and CSA record, no need for the firing company to reveal it. If there was no actual test to prove it then it can't legally be reported as a positive and if it was not only can it be removed but the company could be exposed to legal action. They rely on lab records as proof and the MRO as you say. If there is no lab record of a positive test then it cannot stand. Although the company will still use that code... Not eligible for rehire. BTW If all they had was self reported.. I would deny, deny, deny.. Say you lied.. Say you were being sarcastic..
     
  5. SlowPoke44magnum

    SlowPoke44magnum Medium Load Member

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    Your trucking career is not over... You must complete a SAP program & you can get hired by a company.. Will that be a company you really would want to work for? Probably not, but it will get you back in a truck & if you keep your s#!t together, after 18 months or two years you could move on. I personally know a couple of people who've been stupid WHILE employed as truck drivers who have failed a drug test & that is the path they had to take to get back in a truck.

    I will not bash you for smoking weed like some of the holier than thou posters here, let he without sin cast the first stone is a really good mantra to live by in my opinion... And personally, I believe smoking weed is no different, actually better than drinking alcohol, yet I bet many of the weed bashers on here have no problem drinking a twelve pack or more while on hometime... Hypocrites abound ;)
     
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  6. Lonesome

    Lonesome Mr. Sarcasm

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    Difference being drinking a 12pack on the weekend is still legal in all 50 states....
     
  7. Steven W

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    Yet with Colorado legalizing recreational use that will change in the near future. They now have their public trials. What needs to be done is develop a testing provedure that detects recent use, not any use within the last month. If there was no way to test for alchohol use levels while driving, you can bet legal or not no company would hire anyone that drank beer due to the risk of drinking while driving.
    Within the next 5 years weed will no longer be classified as a schedule 1 drug. You can bet companies are working on finding a testing method as we speak.
     
  8. SlowPoke44magnum

    SlowPoke44magnum Medium Load Member

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    Just because something is legal doesn't mean it's good. Conversely, just because something is illegal doesn't mean it's bad. ;)
    If the think straight sinners would just give up trying to make everyone live only by their hypocritical standards the world be a much better place to be.
     
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  9. freebeertomorrow

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    it is a compliance issue in my eyes. no right or wrong to debate about the schedule and use of narcotics. it's not like it used to be. 75% of being successful now is simply following the rules. clearly there are several involved in driving who know better than the rest of us. it's the ones who "know better" that make it easy for me to advance and remain desirable by default.

    to the op: you can stay in a truck once you jump through the hoops. however, at that point, I think you'd be better off spending your time, money and resources elsewhere.
     
  10. DOT = driver shortage

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    The National Driver Register (NDR) is a division in the National Center for Statistics and Analysis under the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA). The NDR maintains the computerized database known as the Problem Driver Pointer System (PDPS) which contains information on individuals whose privilege to operate a motor vehicle has been revoked, suspended, canceled or denied or who have been convicted of serious traffic-related offenses.
     
  11. reverendhandy

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    Yep. As a CDL holder, your pretty much done until you meet the requirements of DOT for return to duty, which means you have quite a few hoops to jump through.
    You have to understand that companies don't look at the fact that you failed, they look at the probabilities of 1. You failing again, 2. Personal liability, 3. Probability of a habit becoming worse, 4. Saftey on the job to yourself and others.
    Insurance companies only look at numbers. They consider the possibility of you injuring yourself and others and the cost of litigation.
    Having spent the better part of 25 years in management before switching over to driving, I can tell you that in 25 years because of random drug testing, I have had to fire a number of people, some were even considered good friends, but the laws are unforgiving in that respect.
    The bottom line is that you screwed up.
    You broke the trust of your employer and it doesn't matter if you are just a weekend partier or an everyday user, you've got some hurdles a head of you.
     
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