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Discussion in 'Trucking Jobs' started by web79us2001, Jan 11, 2009.

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  1. dancnoone

    dancnoone "Village Idiot"

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    Unfortunately, not all companies are honest. Pre-Hire is different from accepting orientation.

    If you have a pre-hire, it's mearly an offer to look you over once you complete school. It is not a JOB offer.

    Once you get offered a slot for orientation. You have committed yourself to that company.

    There is a difference.

    You can look at pre-hires all day. But once you accept an orientation date. You are considered "on the books". Not as an employee per se. But you will be expected to attend that orientation.

    Unlike the rest of America, where you can back out of ANY job offer at the last minute without repercussions. Trucking is NOT one of those jobs.

    The trucking industry has a collective (DAC) data base on ALL employees and potential employees. McDonald's, Ford, Wal-Mart, and others, simply rely on you to tell them where you worked in the past.

    Trucking companies have access to every place you have ever worked, within the industry. Even including some places you have only applied too.
     
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  3. dancnoone

    dancnoone "Village Idiot"

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    LMAO...I love your enthusiasm.

    Burden of proof goes like this.

    You get dinged. You can ask for a copy. It may take several weeks to obtain it. You have the money?

    Then you can file a dispute. And the company has to provide proof. This can take up to 6 weeks. You still have money??

    If you failed to attend orientation, Your DAC will have it on it, if the company wants it there. Along with all your vital information, personal information, that only YOU had access to. But you released it to said employer prior to attending orientation.

    So, to sound like a complete smart ###. Your former job, won't help you, with this dispute. Because you provided the evidence, for the report. Therefore you ARE guilty.

    There are fixes for DAC errors. But, they are just that. Fixes for errors.
     
  4. IronRydr

    IronRydr Light Load Member

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    Danc,

    You love my enthusiasm? Hey, at least you love something about me, LOL! I guess you misunderstood my post... I don't expect my former job to help me, but rather, because of my former job, I do have some experience with burden of proof :)

    IronRydr
     
  5. TruckerMike

    TruckerMike Medium Load Member

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    Danc,

    I appreciate the advice you've given, but you seem very bitter towards this career.

    Bottom line is this. I had high hopes for my first career choice. Unfortunately, that career turned out to be terrible and was definately not a fit for me. So, now I'm trying something different. Who knows? I could absolutely hate it! And you know what I'll do in that case? I'll find a different job and quit.

    I'm sorry if you're not happy in your career (just an assumption). But understand that people will come and go in this industry. Some will enjoy it, others won't.
     
  6. dancnoone

    dancnoone "Village Idiot"

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    Nope... I'm just realistic. The Carree is great. It's the system that is broken.

    GMC and Ford have the same issue along with the UAW with regards to credt reports. Should they all quit and go home?

    DAC and credit reporting, work the same way. When you get something erroneous put on either. It can cost you a lot of money, downtime, and frustration, to have it corrected.

    Companies will use something as simple as telling a supervisor to kiss your ###. And place it on your DAC, as "making threats" to superiors.

    A lot of trucking companies, work like small hick towns and politicians all over the US. You piss the wrong person off. It will cost you time and money.

    Am I bitter? No. I have a fairly clean DAC though. Where many drivers do not.

    Just read through many of the horror stories about DAC, on this site and others. Then weigh in on the accuracy of that report.
     
  7. PharmPhail

    PharmPhail Road Train Member

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    Seriously You can be DACked for cancelling an orientation with a company??? Has this ACTUALLY happened to anyone?

    What if you cancel it in advance rather than just not showing up? I moved my orientation back about 3 weeks in order to wait for final word from a much better company. It's really no contest between the two but I need to have something. It's just survival really.
     
  8. IronRydr

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    PharmPhail,
    I've read some posts about this happening, but I still can't help but question if it actually DID happen and, if so, what the real circumstances were. For the record, I intend to cancel in advance if I know that I won't be attending an orientation with a company. Beyond that, I'll just have to deal with whatever comes up, IF anything comes up.

    I'm curious what part of NC you're in. I live in VA, just north of Mount Airy, and just finished school with Sage in Yadkinville.

    IronRydr
     
  9. dancnoone

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    I don't think you'll get hit. But it could happen. Not all companies do this. Just the ##### bottom feeders.

    Keep that in mind.

    Personally, I have never been hit for cancelling. And I have cancelled before. But I usually do so, well in advance.
     
  10. PharmPhail

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    I read the one where the guy quit DURING orientation, actually with the company I'm hoping to go with. He said he got DACked for quitting 'under load'.

    I don't intend to quit during an orientation and would understand that they can DAC at that point. I just plan to tell the recruiter thanks but no thanks.

    What had me worried was that the Watkins-Shepard recruiter said oh well then if you have an orientation scheduled I would expect you to follow through on that.

    What I didn't agree with was the idea that any other recruiter would have extended her the same courtesy. It's like a car salesman saying well hey if you told the other lot you'd be back then you'd better just go back.
     
  11. dancnoone

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    W&S won't hit your DAC. They are one of the better companies out there.

    You may find it confusing that a company would blow you off like that. But the majority of them, have applicants out the waazoo right now. And won't miss yours.

    It's the nature of this industry. I know that seems strange to you newer guys. But, you're still in the learning process. This is one industry, that gets a new set of rules handed to it every month.

    And companies change theirs, almost daily.
     
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