American trucks in Canada...

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by caftransport, Jul 7, 2013.

  1. d281833

    d281833 Heavy Load Member

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    Yeah I have buddy that does the same thing, he finally got pinched at Milton. Another fella got scooped at Quebec City, they're the ones that wouldn't let him leave until freightliner came out to the scale and set it. All in all with the fine and service bill it was close to a thousand bucks he said.
     
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  3. abn75

    abn75 Light Load Member

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    Lol I don't do California either, or the north east. I'm a picky driver in where I run.

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  4. d281833

    d281833 Heavy Load Member

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    I hear ya there Lol
     
  5. Lone Ranger 13

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    Years ago, I occasionally went to Canada. Always Ontario or Quebec. Canada may be big , but this is where a lot of freight is.
    I turned down the loads I was offered going there the last decade or so. Truck not governed. Long wheelbase. No passport. 3: strikes......

    The Canadians were always nice , though. The only ones I will meet will be in the US from here on out.
     
  6. rank

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    I got fined in QC for not having my speed limiter set to 105 kph. $390 rings a bell but they tack on some other hefty fees too.

    Regarding the 244" wheelbase limit.....I might be speaking out of turn here, but.....something seems to tell me it's maximum 244" with a 53' trailer? Less than 53' you are good to go?
     
  7. caftransport

    caftransport Light Load Member

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    From what I see on a few sites on regulations a shorter trailer doesn't matter.
     
  8. RickG

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    I've been checked twice on the 401 , Putnam and Trafalgar and once on the 400 . With the new supercoops on both sides at Putnam I'm glad I no longer run Canada .
    Not long after the laws went into effect there was a service set up in Windsor that would set the speed to comply with the limit going in and reset it coming out . Supposedly they only charged $10 . I couldn't cross at Windsor because I ran hazmat .
    There is also an override device that can be bought to override the limiter . It works on all engines but Macks
     
  9. gokiddogo

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    For the limiter, just get your speed set to 65 and activate your driver rewards and allow whatever the maximum speed boost it will give if you pass the driver rewards parameters. The trick is to set them so you CAN'T fail the parameters. Cat engines I think you can get them to do 80 and still show 65. They can't do squat at the scale about this. They do check ALL trucks(when they are working the speed limiter checker), but American trucks are checked more often because they are money hungry w***** just like some are in the US. Don't get caught speeding. Oh yeah, I believe a BullyDog would be illegal too and they may make you fork it over, because you *could* change your truck to go to a higher speed. I think the thought police are coming next.

    Wheelbase: 244" if pulling 53' trailer. Max legal length of ANY truck is 75'6". If you have a 48', you may have a longer tractor, as long as you don't exceed total length law. Ontario has recently allowed up to 282" IF you are using anti-idle device. Spread axles in Manitoba and west are viewed as one axle and allowed a maximum weight of 9100 kg or about 20060 pounds.

    I wish my country would agree on wheelbases and axle weight limits. I can't even tell you what specifically is legit in each province either than in ON where I live. I do know that if you have a 53' and are 244" or less and weights are 5500 kg, 17000 kg, 17000 kg, tandems close to 41', you can roll.
     
  10. Raezzor

    Raezzor Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

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    Wasn't there a Canadian driver that sued the government or some agency up there because he said the ECM checking module bricked his ECM?
     
  11. gokiddogo

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    The driver that did that had a paper written up and demanded the officer sign it before he hook up to the ecm. The paper was having the officer/mto take responsibility in case the reader causes damage. Officer refused to sign and did not check truck. Driver got a ticket for not allowing officer to check. The driver won in court. The problem is, lots of people are doing this, and they just write the ticket anyway and go through the whole story over again. Also, some people have won on the basis where they have had their trucks governed and have proof, then after that it is mysteriously opened up again, and people have won saying that the ecm reset itself somehow. Another guy in northern Ontario got stopped in some type of heavy machine maybe a crane, they checked him and he did not have a limiter. When that guy went to court he showed the court the math on it, and that it would be impossible for the engine to spin fast enough to exceed even 62 mph because of the gearing on it. They cut him loose too. It is a BS law. Why should anyone have any authority over what speed another jurisdiction says I may travel at? I refuse to be locked into 65. It is a safety issue for me, sometimes the safest option is to hammer it down for a bit. I know the cost of fuel and I pay the bills but apparently the lawmakers know best, like always .....
     
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