Another failed e-log monitoring

Discussion in 'Trucking Accidents' started by DUNE-T, Jan 9, 2016.

  1. CJndaTruck

    CJndaTruck Road Train Member

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    I'll drink to that
     
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  3. magoo68

    magoo68 Road Train Member

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    Team truck so many things could've happened.. Truck in shop bad co driver keep waking you with hard braking . Too long on the phone instead of sleeping.. The most important thing is driver didn't know his own body and drove anyways legal or not.. I trained myself early in career to never fall asleep at home watching tv or as a passenger in a vehicle now it's impossible for me to sleep sitting up but I like it that way
     
  4. Ingemar

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    Sounds like you have the same problem as we have in Sweden.
     
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  5. windsmith

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    IIRC, FFE uses International ProStars. They don't have a cargo net; they have a pair of seat belts in the sleeper that are strapped over the driver. I don't know about you, but I would not be able to sleep while strapped in that manner.
     
  6. STexan

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    Ok, maybe. But the reverse can also be applied. i.e. the driver can NOT be expected to run when eLogs says there are not hours to run. So to my way of thinking, it's a push. I just can't see eLogs as only working against the driver. But I also see the carrier needs to insure they are protected against "lazy drivers" (and there are plenty out there)

    But the bottom line is THE DRIVER is ALWAYS the final say in wether that truck moves or not. It's up to the driver to know the carrier trusts his judgment (or not) in a given situation. If you have not built a good reputation for yourself [with the carrier office] then maybe you should choose your battles carefully and think carefully before you refuse to drive and know you are "in the right". In that case, then by all means not drive and know you are doing the right thing and will not be second guessed from the office.
     
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  7. windsmith

    windsmith Road Train Member

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    You, as the driver, resolve those issues. When dispatch wants to know why you can't roll out of the bunk and deliver that 100 mile load, then shut down for 10 and then pull 11 hours driving immediately afterward, you simply inform them that you won't be rested enough to complete the assignment safely. If you get any pushback, ANY pushback at all, then inform dispatch that you're going to contact the safety department and include them in the conference call to discuss. Things should end there. If safety turns out to not be on your side, then it's time to find another company to work for.
     
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  8. 25(2)+2

    25(2)+2 Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    I am more likely to be pulled off a load to do something else and not be anywhere near my truck when I get the call. Stuff happens and a small company has limited resources to deal with it. I have value because I can deal with the unexpected.

    These ignorant, ill thought rules that stop someone minutes from home until they have taken another 10 hour break do nothing for anyone running short haul with bills to pay.
     
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  9. brsims

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    Elaborate, please. I was under the impression Europe had systems in place to protect drivers from unscrupulous dispatchers.
     
  10. Big Don

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    They can't be resolved. For every new rule forced on us, somebody will figure a way around it. Or just ignore it...

    Well, SCREWEM if they couldn't take a joke!
    That's the sad truth.

    What do you believe they have that will do that?
     
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  11. brsims

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    For some reason, I thought there were actual, legal protections for drivers with real teeth (unlike the majority of protections found here for employees that any employer can get around). Maybe I was wrong. It's been known to happen, apparently. Not that I would ever.admit it, you understand.
     
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