another whether to haul cheap freight question

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  1. rollin coal

    rollin coal Road Train Member

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    I get the same rate on partial as full truckloads. $3+ on anything over 400 miles up to 1000. Did 100 loaded miles partial not long ago for $11 a mile customer doesn't have time for me to put other freight on though but those are my rates
     
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  3. rsconsulting

    rsconsulting Light Load Member

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    I'd say my BS detector went off, when he called you and told you "his girl made a mistake". Probably got a call from someone else (AFTER he sent you the rate confirmation) that was willing to take it for less.

    If this broker is someone "of value" to you, and you want to foster "future good will", you might consider offering to "split the difference" on the load (and do it for $700). Or give him the option to cancel his CONTRACT with you, for a TONU fee in the amount of, say $600?

    We all understand considering it to be "extra gravy" when it's in route for you already - but you'd be setting a "tone" with this broker, of being able to negotiate you DOWN on ANY LOAD (versus you controlling the action and negotiating UP on EVERY LOAD).

    There usually isn't a helluva lot of difference in rates for LTL versus FTL - the load STILL has to get there, and the shipper/consignee STILL has to "pay the freight" on it.

    Rick
     
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  4. Autocar

    Autocar Road Train Member

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    There is a great difference between LTL and Truckload, rates and service.
     
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  5. rollin coal

    rollin coal Road Train Member

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    If that broker is telling you when that $600 load "must deliver" then that is a full truck load rate no if's, and's, or but's about it.
     
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  6. Autocar

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    That is a factor that takes it out of the LTL market and moves it to the Truckload market. Just because the load may be one, lightweight, piece does not automatically price it as LTL. What is the service level required?
     
  7. rollin coal

    rollin coal Road Train Member

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    Yep, everything is different. Many factors to consider on any given "2 pallets" partial "load".
     
  8. rsconsulting

    rsconsulting Light Load Member

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    My bad - I was inferring to "partials" rather than "fulls" - though some try to nullify the distinction by classifying a "long haul load" as an LTL.

    The fact that it doesn't require the full capacity of the truck - isn't the "sole qualifier" for that distinction.

    While a "company driver" with a load planning department behind them, might get "planned correctly" for a multi-pickup/multi-drop run, in order to maximize revenues on miles (and the company driver has no "investment" in the equation, as he gets paid for miles REGARDLESS) the O/O has to look at the equation a little differently.

    That being said - if I were seeking a long-term-relationship with this broker - I'd probably take the load (and try to make them split the difference) and let them know "they owe me one". But to just "bend over" to pull another .50CPM out of the run, doesn't set the "correct tone" for any future dealings...


    Rick
     
  9. SHC

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    LTL means that I tell YOU when I will deliver, not YOU telling me.

    It seems the brokers just use the term LTL to justify piss poor rates sometimes.

    If I were in your position, I would just call the broker back and lay it down for him and say "Well, my rate is $800 and that's it. I'm done loading and heading way out of town now. If they want it shipped for $800 then i will take it, if not them I'm gone. They have 15 minutes to respond and not a minute more"...... then see where it goes. I'm betting the broker agree's to ship it for the $800 with you.

    To be honest, it sounds to me like he wants to pocket the $200 for himself as there is NOWAY it was posted for $800, you signed a contract for $800 and his new girl accidentally made a mistake. I call total BS
     
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  10. dhooks

    dhooks Light Load Member

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    800 is a reall low rate for the miles anyway, plus an extra pick and drop for 600? To me it would be worth it to make a point and not get it , if he doesnt honour your confirmation.
     
  11. Semi Crazy

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    Call them back in a different voice and say I'm sorry my new boy just messed up and the rate will be $1300 to haul it.
     
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