AOBRD vs ELD

Discussion in 'ELD Forum | Questions, Answers and Reviews' started by MGE Dawn, May 20, 2019.

  1. Truckermania

    Truckermania Road Train Member

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    The problem with this would come in when the company is audited. A few here and there can be chalked up to truck in shop and the like. However, if you have this as a regular occurrence you would get dinged for it. Also if you are a company driver the safety department would frown on that.

    Also, you could go grab a bite to eat on personal conveyance anyway and remain off duty.
     
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  3. ZVar

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    It's logged in the ELD.. It will be seen in a compliance review and of course the company safety person will likely get a report. Actually legally you can do that under personal convenience. Company might have something to say though.
     
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  4. Moosetek13

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    At Swift we are AOBRD, but much of the difference with the ELD is there as well.
    We can not change the drive line hours at all, all changes must have a comment, and other things.
    There is still some leeway when driving at places like a shipper/receiver. It records as driving from the moment the wheels turn, but if you shut it off within a certain distance and time it will revert back to on-duty or off-duty for that duration.

    And if we are logged out and drive Swift sees it right away and calls you on it. Driving the truck without a logged in driver sends an alert.
    I tried it once a few years ago on home time to drive to the store so I would not screw up my 34, and Swift was not happy about it.

    They have since given us line 5, off-duty driving. It is limited to one hour per day, and can not be used improperly - such as getting you closer to your destination to save time. No cheating.
    But it sure is nice to have the option when at home, or getting to a nearby truck stop after the shipper/receiver runs your hours out.
     
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  5. starmac

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    OK, so if you are out of hours, you can still drive to a nearby truckstop up to an hour away?
     
  6. Truckermania

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    Technically there is no time limit. You have to stop at the nearest place you can safely park. Very subjective as to what is safe. What you consider safe might not be what DOT considers safe.
     
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  7. ZVar

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    Like said no time limit. And if you get an LEO who has a policy (Like we've had post here) of only going off the PC examples then you can only move for 3 reasons.

    1. Truly personal. I.e. a restaurant, go watch a movie, going to Wal-mart, etc.
    2. Get told to move by an LEO.
    3. Get kicked out of a shipper/receiver that has no parking

    So if you drive for 11, then start looking you will likely get a citation if caught. And the exact wording is "nearby, reasonable, safe location" If it's legal to park on on on ramp, some LEO's might see that as reasonable (I don't, but I won't be the one writing the citation either)
    Basically don't make a habit of using it, but when you do simply annotate why. and get on with life.
     
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  8. Moosetek13

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    The rule with Swift is a maximum of 1 hour per day on line 5.

    In the case of being out of hours and you can not take your break at the shipper/receiver, it is generally to the closest safe parking. So, truck stop or rest area etc.
    I also do not consider the side of a road or ramp to be a safe place to park.
     
  9. Bill51

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    That chart is misleading. We use an AOBDR which ties into an app on our company iphone. Changes in duty status (drive to on-duty and vice versa) are automatic and the location changes occurred at is exact.
    Only problem is johnny law can't download your last seven days from the device. Has to be sent via email from home office.
    For sure cannot edit drive times.
     
  10. Scooter Jones

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    Sounds to me like your company is already using ELD and not AOBRD. The chart I posted is straight from my provider, BigRoad.
     
  11. MGE Dawn

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    Not for long. Remember, we (Swift) have to be changed over to ELDs before the year is out, which is the very reason I made this thread.

    RE: line 5, though, if you read the driver handbook it says on page 124 that personal conveyance is limited to 3 hours per day, while the company keeps telling us that it's 1 hour per day... I'm honestly more than a little confused at this point
     
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