Are we gonna Learn?

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by 2insane, Jan 30, 2013.

  1. Autocar

    Autocar Road Train Member

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    Brokers have never "controlled" the rates. As in any commodity, supply and demand controls pricing for goods and services. Brokers and carriers only work off the market conditions.
     
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  3. aiwiron

    aiwiron Road Train Member

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    I disagree,

    Brokers can and do control rates
     
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  4. Autocar

    Autocar Road Train Member

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    A broker can throw a rate out there, but if the market will not support it, it will not fly.
     
  5. MNdriver

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    Same with a shipper, (so do show up as direct on loadboards) as well as a carrier.

    How many times have you gotten a broker willingly to show you his load sheet with freight rates on it though.
     
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  6. windsmith

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    Brokers are only a cog in the rate machine.

    If carriers didn't accept the low rates, they'd be forced to increase them.

    I'm not sure how to fix the problem, beyond creating another regulation prohibiting carriers from hauling loads below cost.
     
  7. MNdriver

    MNdriver Road Train Member

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    there is no fix for it.

    Simply stop whining about it and when someone offers you a rate you don't want or like, move on.

    You'll never get 100% of the rates you really are willing to pull for.

    So quite whining about it.

    There's plenty of other loads out there. Go find them.

    I bet you I turn down 18-20 loads for the one load I pull
     
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  8. Autocar

    Autocar Road Train Member

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    Brokers have no more ability to control rates than carriers do. When an area has less freight available, than trucks, the rates will be low. When an area has less trucks available, than loads available, the rates will be higher. This is a business basic and you don't even need a college education to know that, just a little common sense.
     
  9. landstar8891

    landstar8891 Road Train Member

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    You are correct.!!!!!!...

    The ''big'' outfits make millions putting students and newbies in the trucks today..In the future the ''middle class'' or middle man will be put out.The big companies want the big money and then they will give .25 cents a mile to to company newbie whom has not a clue..Not to mention they can Control,Dominate and Abuse the hell out of those drivers.Sad but true.I hope i can hang on for 15 more years.

    I have been watching this for 25 years.O/O's are a dying breed being squezzed out of that picture..The idea is the rich get richer and the poor get poorer.
     
  10. landstar8891

    landstar8891 Road Train Member

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    No one is ''whining'' here.I am sorry you percieve people are ''whining'' when they are just discussing the Rates.Standard operation for ''truckers'' is to call it whining when we start asking questions and want to be RIGHTLY INFORMED.For some odd reason the drivers wanting to know the in's,out's,why's and when's are called ''whiners''.

    It is the drivers Rights to want to know whats going on and question the corruption that goes on in this industry.You should see my ''questions'' i ask and demand from the agents.I also want it all in writing before i turn the key as evidence.Some agents get so frustrated with me and hang up...LMAO..

    I would not call it whining.I would call it smart for a Business Owner to cover every aspect and gain every peice of knowledge he/she can.
     
  11. MNdriver

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    how many threads in the last week have been started for "cheap freight"?

    In the last month?

    In the last year?

    Since TTR Started?

    Insanity is defined as doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a DIFFERENT outcome.


    The OP probably did have a justification to ask his question. I will give him that. But after 5 pages of the same people in a "cheap thread" discussing the SAME topics, it becomes whining.

    Was it pointed at the OP, nope, but there sure are enough others that populate these types of thread ######## and whining about the same thing.

    And you'd think they'd learn after the 4th or 5th thread in the week on it.

    If they really wanted to learn, they'd google and start reading up on supply chain management.


     
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