Are you an operator or just a driver

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by laytonrock, Jul 5, 2013.

  1. laytonrock

    laytonrock Light Load Member

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    Back in the 70's when I was new to this I was like a sponge wanting to learn my engine and how to do everthing right like the old skool guys taught me. Back then we had to warm up our engines or they would score the cylinder walls, and of course we let them cool down or we would take out the turbo. We always stopped every 100 miles and checked our tires and bearings. We normaly serviced our own truck and knew everything about it, and we carried a small tool box to fix minor issues that would arrive. Among lots of lessons the old guys taught me the most important was respect for others and drivers were as respected as airline pilots. Thease things of course got lost somewhere back over the miles, but what alarms me most is the next generation of drivers.

    Seems to me the new drivers I see thease days only know some driving and how to do the paperwork , most dont even know what kinda engine they have under the hood, most dont even care what engine they have under the hood. Today its just about getting down the road and if something breaks just make a phone call. Of course todays engines with the new technology dont need as much attention as the earlier ones, but I feel a driver should know alot more than this new generation is taught. Maybe some diesel 101, transmissions 101 and lessons like road skills and etiquitte or advance backing up and map reading.

    Maybe some of thease lessons could be taught that would put a more informed driver out there, but I know most of the skills needed must be expierianced first and then.......
    a driver may just become an operator
     
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  3. Chase05

    Chase05 Medium Load Member

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    I'm probably one of those guys you're talking about. I don't know much about autos or diesel. In my defense though, engines are pretty different now. There's so many electronic and computer parts, that a lot of it just has to be done in a garage. On the other side of that though, I do wish my school would actually, uh, teach me stuff. I haven't learned more than a couple neat facts (eisenhower system, now I can drive anywhere!!!) since the first 2 weeks learning to pass the permit test. I'm in an 18 week course, I'm 8 weeks in, and I haven't learned anything other than Fuel tax and some map reading exercises in the last 6 weeks. I get lots of backing practice, but the "lab" time is a joke. BTW, reading a map isn't hard. Learning trip planning through an Atlas is like learning to use an abacus in case your calculator batteries die. My instructors don't seem to know how GPS works, or that most companies will want you running their designated routes no matter what you want to "plan".

    Seriously, I was all excited about doing this 18 week course the school had, cuz I was gonna be the next "super trucker", coming out of school 3 steps ahead. What a joke... I'm actually wishing I'd just signed on with Prime or Maverick.
     
  4. Cjh_army

    Cjh_army Medium Load Member

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    If I was to touch my engine for any reason other than pre trip I would be fired.

    Sure, let me grab my crescent wrench and fix my EGR.
     
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  5. Chase05

    Chase05 Medium Load Member

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    Haha, yeah, that too. Depends on the company, but most seem to be that way, or the mega's at least.
     
  6. Rugerfan

    Rugerfan Road Train Member

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    I hate to sound like a new generation guy but I dont know enough about the engine to even try and fix something that is wrong. but i will adjust my brakes and things like that to stay legal
     
  7. tirednaz

    tirednaz Heavy Load Member

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    All the big companies want you to touch is the steering wheel.
     
  8. Boka

    Boka Light Load Member

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    Well to me the scariest thing in todays trucking is when i see a driver become a trainer after only 6 months behind a wheel...
     
  9. Chase05

    Chase05 Medium Load Member

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    Yeah, it's not the drivers. People in general are lazier and what not now, but the lack of personal automotive maintenance isn't "our" fault. Some guy that kinda knows what he is doing can really mess up a $100,000 vehicle.
     
  10. Semi Crazy

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    What are they teaching in school now? I learned to read maps in 3rd or 4th grade. And I don't know that there is much to be taught as maps are pretty easy to understand.
     
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  11. KW Cajun

    KW Cajun Road Train Member

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    Great subject, laytonrock (OP). I couldn't agree more. I'm still considered a greenhorn by Class A standards, but have been *operating* a wide variety of "heavy" vehicles, flatbed trailers, & construction equipment for 30+ years. Sad that the newer breed doesn't even know what's under the hood, under/outside the frame rails, or what makes any of the parts tick, so to speak.

    My last eye-opener was just the other night. I've never locked my keys in my truck (slipseat) until 3 nights ago. I had a "plethora" of tools (screwdrivers, stiff wire, pry bars, you-name-it) to easily gain entry back into my truck. Trouble was, all of it was locked inside. No problem I thought, as I had just met up with my (much younger) linehaul meet-up driver. I asked him for a basic screwdriver... he had nothing, and I mean nothing. He said all he needs, or ever brought with him, on his yearlong run is his drivers license, med card, and an ink pen. Unreal!!
    I shoulda known... his trailer pretrips when we exchange (drop & hook) are a joke (literally non-existant). He's pulled in with brake chambers gushing air, brake or taillights not working, or pins on the sliders not engaged. So sad to see the true operators run the course of the dinosaurs, only to be replaced by clueless unprepared new-breed dodo bird hatchlings.

    And yes... I'M a dummy for lockin' the keys in the cab! :biggrin_25523:
     
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