Are You Profitable?

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Midwest Trucker, Aug 27, 2019.

Are You Profitable Right Now?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

    7 vote(s)
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  3. I’m Not Sure (It’s ok, be honest)

    6 vote(s)
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  4. Let me see the results

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  5. I’m a Company Driver

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  1. Midwest Trucker

    Midwest Trucker Road Train Member

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    Thanks for the reply! I appreciate the insight into what your going through, how you run your business, and the challenges at your size of company. Very interesting.
     
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  3. Ridlingdj

    Ridlingdj Medium Load Member

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    Please define profit in your eyes by my tax return lady no by my bank yes it's all a matter of your view and how you look at success I dont ever show profit on tax returns
     
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  4. TallJoe

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    The best common denominator would be all collected money after all unavoidable expenses: fuel, truck payments, drivers pay (although this is arbitrary for a solo owner operator) insurance, maintenance, legal fees, tollway, etc.
    I would exclude arbitrary items such as retirement allocations, maintenance fund, health or occupational insurance etc.
     
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  5. Midwest Trucker

    Midwest Trucker Road Train Member

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    Well then your either not making any money or your cheating on your taxes. How do you make profit without showing profit and not cheating your taxes?

    I define profit as your bank account is higher then it was 1 yr earlier.
     
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  6. xsetra

    xsetra Road Train Member

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    Easy way to reduce income (profit) without a loss.
    Depreciation and other write offs.
     
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  7. Midwest Trucker

    Midwest Trucker Road Train Member

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    I agree about the depreciation. But the “other” write offs I feel a lot of people just game the system. As far as depreciation, if you depreciate more then you’ve actually paid them eventually your going to run out of things to depreciate and will have to pay taxes if your profitable. The other guy I responded to said his account goes up AND he shows no profit.

    Edit: Not to mention most everybody and their brother on TTR is obsessed with running old trucks that they dump money into. So, what is there to depreciate for these people?
     
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  8. xsetra

    xsetra Road Train Member

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    If you own freight company A.
    And you own truck asset company B

    A leases from B. Tremendous write offs.
    Then B and A switch asset ownership.

    I was told that is why some of the equipment rental companies were started.
     
  9. Ridlingdj

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    I own a farm and a few trucks the trucks have cost way more money than I will ever make from them but everything you buy for your company has a tax write off at least for a farm as business write off as required expense and you can hold onto that for a set number of years before you have to report it so for farms the years you make money you buy and sell equipment and or build more grain tanks pole barns ex your assets go up in value but it shows loss of profits as far as the government is concerned
     
  10. Rideandrepair

    Rideandrepair Road Train Member

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    My Company never makes a profit. Everything left after expenses is pay for myself. That’s the technical answer. This year like last, I will work enough to survive. Net worth, Assets- Liabilities. Slowly improving. This year, Like last year, very slowly. I’m OK with that,
    If Net worth starts to decline. I’m ready to sell my Old equipment, and get a Job, preferably outside of the Trucking Industry.Ive seen enough,seen better days. Not as Challenging anymore. Honestly, having my Own Authority with only 1 Truck, is hardly worth all the risk and responsibilities involved. Not to mention the time it takes. How many times, while Others are heading home, Im just getting loaded, and have to put 400-500 miles behind Me. Sometimes, I think a Full time 40 hr 5 day job with benefits, and a part time Saturday Bussiness, be it Carpentry, or a flea market, or produce stand. Would be a better option. I’d do that now, except I may regret it, as I’ve got this Trucking thing set up pretty good.It’s what I know, but I have no desire to go any further, with more Trucks or Customers, Drivers. Etc.So the big Challenges aren’t there, anymore. The Challenge has always been the Motivator for Me.
     
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