Arizona overweight permit

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  1. nikmirbre

    nikmirbre Road Train Member

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    Im trying to get some clarification. Ill be going through Arizona on I40 to US 93 up to Vegas.
    Im on 6 axles and with Arizona being the state that allows the least amount of weight on my route I have to get my weights right. Ill be roughly 104-105k lbs. I done my weights like this.....

    11000 on steer
    42000 tandem
    51000 tandem. My axle space is on tridem is 4ft and 4ft 1

    However can I not apply for a special type of permit that will allow me up to 57k on my tridem?

    @Rontonio @Oxbow @Razororange I know you run more axles than I but, I know you run that way. Anyone else
     
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  2. IH Truck Guy

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    Last time I ran thru there they would only give me 51,800 on the tridem with 4'6" spacing.
     
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    Yes I read something about a Class C tridem permit. It costs a little extra but it'd be worth applying for since ill be very close to weight..... I asked permit company to apply for it as I just asked for 54k....
     
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  4. Rontonio

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    the answer you seek is a class c tridem bonus permit. It should allow you to get 60k for your tridem
    And 46k for your tandem. Just max it out same price.

    as of September last year (somewhere I have the ADOT memo) you apply and receive a tridem bonus on any state route in AZ - where as before you could only have gotten one for I-10, I-40 and I-19.

    the price difference is $90 versus $75
     
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  5. nikmirbre

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    Ok. I don’t think I could max it because of my axle spacings. And from what I read about Arizona my weights need to be very close to whatever I order for permits? Is there a number, is it a few hundred pounds?

    Im only like 10 wide. Legal height and about 105k. I just want to make sure if I ask for that permit they won’t require something silly like a route survey.
     
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  6. Rontonio

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    I am based in AZ, I regularly max my permits by axle group upto 200k with no issues. I buy permits for all 3 of my trucks (10/11 axle plus 2 7/8 axle setups) - maybe 50 a year.

    the tridem bonus should allow you to get very near 60k even with your short spacing

    you can call central permits and ask to speak to the class c lady
     
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    Yea I spoke to someone at class C. I didn’t get much help because she kept asking questions as if I was gonna be a super load. She kept asking my height and width. Height being her main concern. She fwd me to permit and I asked them questions. The info I was given before calling them was outdated. I was given interstates only and sr68 and us93(can use the class c). I did tell permit company to order me at 54k for tridem. I was gonna wait until I got to port of entry, but didn’t know if I could do that when ordering the class c permit.....
     
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    I spoke to her again and got a better understanding. I don't qualify for the 57k Class C tridem permit because my axle spacing on my tried aren't at least 9 ft( 4'6 +4'6)

    I asked for 54000 and permit company said no its not working in the system. So I called Class C again and was told no with those axle spacings..... Im ft 4ft and 4ft 1....
     
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    The top 2 are parts of the loading tables from ch17 - you can based on the 3rd photo

    The table are for 8 wide axles and 8 6 wide axles


    The table for 8 6 wide axles with 9 0 spread is the 53379 number

    that is table weight for your axle spacing - you can get that on a class A permit
     
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    Thank you. Im just gonna get loaded Tuesday and then deal with the Arizona permit in hopes that I won't have to get to the Port of Entry or before the state line and move the machine towards my tandems.(since they do allow 46k on tandems) Ok so I tried to look up the same info based on your post and answer it for myself but I can't pull it up.... based on the photo with me having 4ft and 4'1 spacing on tridem I can apply for permit on tridem with a weight of...52290lbs?
     
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