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  1. rollin coal

    rollin coal Road Train Member

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    You'll see a lot of blind shipments with recycled scrap materials for dry vans, flats or reefers. Scrap paper, crushed aluminum cans, metal shavings etc. Nothing illegal or shady about it. Like PPDCT says it's to prevent one or both of the customers from knowing where it came from so they can't cut out the middle man. CHR does a lot of scrap paper loads like that out of Birmingham.
     
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  3. 6wheeler

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    So the shipper bills the receiver for that same amount of mileage even though it never traveled that total distance.
     
  4. Ruthless

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    Or they aren't billing them for shipping at all because the shipper eats it.
     
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  5. rollin coal

    rollin coal Road Train Member

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    Recycled materials is a very competitive and price sensitive business. As every business out there really. I seriously doubt conspiracies of anyone making a blind BOL for a 600 mile shipment that really only moved a 100 miles and then skimming customers for nonexistent 500 miles of extra rate money off the top of it.
     
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  6. PPLC

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    A lot of times my customers will eat the shipping cost as part of a bid to get their product sold. The difference between charging back a customer for freight, versus eating the cost themselves is enough in some bids to make the sale versus someone else getting it. That's why some shippers get a little tight with the purse strings, because it's very easy to eat into a significant percentage of the margin for a sale with the cost of transportation factored in.
     
  7. boredsocial

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    I almost guarantee that the scrap business is a 'bring this much scrap get this much money' business. The shipping is definitely getting paid 100% by the shipper... And if it isn't the customer setting up transportation is going to be the receiver. I see a lot of the latter arrangement in produce actually.
     
  8. 6wheeler

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    I have proof from last weeks delivery.
    I don't know about the extra rate of money but here is a shipment that only moved 100 miles across Virginia that was billed from Georgia.

    Never mind, I can't figure out how to upload the image. I clicked the camera the paper clip and so on
     
  9. rollin coal

    rollin coal Road Train Member

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    That's what I figured.
     
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  10. rollin coal

    rollin coal Road Train Member

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    Take a pic of it with your phone. Click "upload a file" here and select "documents" the select "gallery" (or where pics are filed away in your phone), select the pic you are attaching and post it after it finishes uploading.
     
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    Ok here is a blind shipment that only moved 100 miles but I am guessing it is being charged to the receiver as if it traveled 500 miles.
     

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