auto hauler information please?

gummy bear · Apr 9, 2011

Joetro said: ↑

You'll have to forgive me for being blunt, but this is a huge indication that you need more training.
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He's not going to last long in this field. I've got the feeling, from his being too lazy to properly tarp his load that he's in the seat just because he couldn't find a job elsewhere. Just sayin'

yungtrucker86 · Apr 9, 2011

'olhand said: ↑

I am not in anyway trying to discourage you from bettering yourself and making a better living--BUT--IMHO==please listen(read carefully) what you are being told here--and check out that kind of work VERY CLOSELY!
Pulling a Flatbed--and running a parking lot--are quite different--to each his own--but DO NOT confuse the two--As I have said many times b4--I have pulled a reefer almost exclusively my entire life and mostly LTL and Produce and while I wouldn't do anything else if I had a dollar for everyone who tells me I'm nuts I would have retire years ago--BUT IMHO there is nothing tougher than car hauling--One of my long time buddies has done it for almost 30years now--Ice covered rig--YOU have to climb all over--then undo chains--lay out more ice covered ramps--and then back down off that thing--and oh yeah--all this in the right lane of a busy highway in front of a dealer--in morning traffic--God bless em--I know this is kinda worse case scenario--I'm just sayin think about it very hard--There is no question as hard as you have to work skateboarding--you are not being properly compensated--and hearing about those kind of wages would make you think--But really think it through--cause like someone else here said--who has done it a long time--he wishes he never saw one!! There are very good reasons these drivers are compensated the way they are.
Just my $.02
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I know when comes to trucking one jobs harder then the other flatbed requires more work then dryvan/refer....unless you are on one of those dedicated dollar tree/dollar general runs where you touch every box....that not easy going to little town have and block traffic to maneuver to park and you already know half of the town dont care that your working so there gonna go around no more what....... but i know it can be challenging.....

yungtrucker86 · Apr 9, 2011

G/MAN said: ↑

Hauling cars does pay well, but you will earn every penny. You can earn a good living pulling a flat. Once you get some experience, you should be earning at least $45-50M/year with a flat. I don't understand why you only made $17,000 last year. If you lost a tarp after only spending 10 minutes tarping, then perhaps you have not had enough experience pulling a flat. You cannot take a lot of shortcuts when you pull flats or cars.

You can be out in all types of weather pulling both. Pulling a car hauler requires a lot of dexterity. Most flat bed loads can be secured with 10 chains or straps. A ten car rig will require 40 chains or straps. Some of the new cars require straps rather than chains. You will be driving cars on a moving ramp, often not being able to see very well. Getting out you need to be very careful because you only have a few inches on each side of the car to get your footing. It can be hot in summer, but winters you will fight with ice and snow. There is nothing like trying to load or unload a car on an icy ramp.

Hauling cars requires you to climb up and down the equivalent of a one story building to load the upper deck. One misstep could put you in the hospital or break your neck. You don't get in a big hurry loading cars.

There is a good reason drivers are paid more to haul cars than most other segments of this industry.
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i know i should be making 45-50 k a year come to western you'll be making less.... my year here will be in july and im out...But car hauling im up for the challenge....never scared...i lived in detroit all my life slipping and busting my butt on ice never gets old.....Now i know i said i did a 10 min tarp job does not mean when it comes to my loads I'm lazy and hurry up to get it done i take my time....a 45,000 lb coil comming at you suicide or a bundle of steel comming threw the cab i try to prevent that as much as possible.....

yungtrucker86 · Apr 9, 2011

Joetro said: ↑

And that's where the similarity ends. Make no mistake, knowing how to secure a flatbed load is nowhere near the same as securing a vehicle.

You'll have to forgive me for being blunt, but this is a huge indication that you need more training. You can't be lazy in this business, I don't care what you pull. Sure, if there are doors on the back, you can get away with things a little more, but laziness is how a 30,000 lb coil ends up in traffic.
You certainly cannot be lazy hauling cars. Ever. There's a whole lot of climbing involved and, with 4 chains or straps per car, it will work you out, for sure. Add snow and ice and it gets even more interesting. Mixed loads will work you even more when new and you don't know how to load the trailer. When I first started, there was one day I spent 8 hours trying to fit the cars on my truck. In the rain. Please don't fool yourself into thinking that it's all cotton candy and rainbows. I remember when I was still dragging a flatbed (I did that for most of my career) I'd see the car haulers and think, "That's the way to go; drive 'em on, chain 'em down and beat feet. Heh, I learned that that wasn't the case, real quick when I started hauling cars in the mid 90's.
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i was always taught looks can be deceiving ......I'm always up for a challenge no matter how big or tall it is.....I got in to trucking to try various of thing not to be fat and pull van and eat everything on the buffet menu at Petro or T.A..........

yungtrucker86 · Apr 9, 2011

gummy bear said: ↑

He's not going to last long in this field. I've got the feeling, from his being too lazy to properly tarp his load that he's in the seat just because he couldn't find a job elsewhere. Just sayin'
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Wow you really have negative image about me dont you???
I guess your not human......We all make mistakes and learn from them...Well some of us....People like you motivate me to prove you wrong......Im 25 years old still learning something new from new and old school truckers....Lazy???? Flatbed is not for lazy people bruh...Not everyone can drive a truck and deal what we all deal with...traffic,a-hole at the shipper/receiving,driving in winter storms,basically putting your life at risk each and every day.....and if that does not get you d.o.t will try to find something wrong with your log book,truck/trl once your cdl is gone what next working at walmart or a factory???

G/MAN · Apr 9, 2011

yungtrucker86 said: ↑

i know i should be making 45-50 k a year come to western you'll be making less.... my year here will be in july and im out...But car hauling im up for the challenge....never scared...i lived in detroit all my life slipping and busting my butt on ice never gets old.....Now i know i said i did a 10 min tarp job does not mean when it comes to my loads I'm lazy and hurry up to get it done i take my time....a 45,000 lb coil comming at you suicide or a bundle of steel comming threw the cab i try to prevent that as much as possible.....
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So, when you stated that you only made $17,000 last year pulling a flat, it was only for about 5 months? That should put your pay for pulling a flat between $35-40,000 for a complete year. If that is the case, it isn't bad, especially your first year pulling a flat bed. No matter what you pull, you won't start at top wages. Like everything it takes time to learn and hone your craft.

Hammer166 · Apr 9, 2011

Something else to remember about the union carhaulers: those guys making the really big bucks are based in terminals where they can grab a backhaul towards home. They only get paid while there is a car on the truck, hauling a load back home makes a huge difference! And this just isn't possible everywhere, it's a case where your home terminal can really effect your income potential.

yungtrucker86 · Apr 9, 2011

Hammer166 said: ↑

Something else to remember about the union carhaulers: those guys making the really big bucks are based in terminals where they can grab a backhaul towards home. They only get paid while there is a car on the truck, hauling a load back home makes a huge difference! And this just isn't possible everywhere, it's a case where your home terminal can really effect your income potential.
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thanks for the input i will keep that in mind

G/MAN · Apr 9, 2011

Most of the non-union car haulers seem to pay percentage. I would think that your greatest challenge is finding a carrier who will train you. Perhaps some of the union car haulers have a training program Allied Systems did have a training program at one time.

yungtrucker86 · Apr 9, 2011

G/MAN said: ↑

Most of the non-union car haulers seem to pay percentage. I would think that your greatest challenge is finding a carrier who will train you. Perhaps some of the union car haulers have a training program Allied Systems did have a training program at one time.
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cassen hiring ppl out of school now and train

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