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Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Jbrow327, Feb 21, 2020.

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Odin's Rabid Dog said: ↑

Great!
Surely, you've got some sort of proof of that ####ing ridiculous claim?
Let's see it.

Our better yet, refute my points.
You can't.
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Well...i see some stuck in snow that shouldn't be...in the medians...abusing the drive line on fast take offs from red light to red light. No control so it seems. Just know to drop the hammer and make it go. Oh i know some have manual trans that do this also. But..not knowing how to shift just makes it easier for a seat warmer. Imo.

stillwurkin, Feb 22, 2020

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Well here's the truth about automatic transmissions.

The Fleets do not buy them because they are better. They buy them because they have more reasons to buy them than not to buy them.

For example, no offense to anyone but a mega can put anybody with a CDL and a pulse into an automatic truck.

Next is fuel mileage. Automatics are not better on fuel than manual. Although they do get better fuel mileage. Why is that? That is because drivers or I should say especially new drivers don't know when to shift for fuel economy. So with the latest dumbing-down of trucks, the computer decides when to shift. It is sort of like a backward insult.

The next reason is because one of the biggest expenses that trucking companies have during the warranty period until they get rid of the trucks is clutch and transmission issues along with Driveline issues. Again, it is the dumbing-down of drivers. The computer make sure the truck pulls out smoothly. The computer make sure the clutch isn't popped. The computer make sure the clutch brake isn't hit while the truck is moving. The computer make sure the driver doesn't Jam gears like an animal.

So it is not that they are better by a long shot. It is the lesser of two evils.

But if you are an owner operator, unless you have knee issues, the cost of an automatic versus a manual over the life of the truck is astronomical.

A manual transmission will never let you down because a wire got rubbed somewhere. A manual will never let you down because one computer stopped talking to another like a bad marriage. A manual will never let you down because a stupid solenoid doesn't work. A manual will never let you down because there is a bad ground somewhere. A manual Will Never Let You Down because of electronic Gremlins that come and go as they feel like it as you shell out more and more money and the mechanics tell you they can find nothing wrong but pay me anyway.

Computers and all of the electronic nonsense whether it's on a transmission or whether it's on an engine is the stupidity of mankind.

Nothing beats a mechanical engine and a manual transmission.
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Very true. Only thing is my 01, C-15 does have some electronics, as did my 3406-e. Very dependable. What i like is not as much smoke. Tree huggers hate to see that, and black smoke is wasted fuel. When i set the idle up on cold mornings the rpm don't keep climbing as the engine warms up. No throttle linkage to wear out and cause issues. But agree nothing really a deal breaker for me to dislike a mechanical engine. More simple, is better. More wires, sensors, gadgets, more trouble. Have to mention electric windows. Whats wrong with a crank? If i get to weak and feeble to crank a widow up and down, i am finished.

stillwurkin, Feb 22, 2020

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Jbrow327 said: ↑

That's the ego talking
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It was a joke. I do not have my shifter extended or raised. But auto shifts do encourage hiring more seat warmers.

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Used to hear the same argument about fuel injection over carb's on our cars and bikes, turn's out technology will win out, the rest will die by the wayside.

Auto's are here to stay, eventually you wont even be able to order a manual trans.

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Powder Joints said: ↑

Used to hear the same argument about fuel injection over carb's on our cars and bikes, turn's out technology will win out, the rest will die by the wayside.

Auto's are here to stay, eventually you wont even be able to order a manual trans.
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No doubt. Led lights etc. I may even try a auto in my next truck? Some new pickups not even available with auto trans. To me smooth manual shifting is a perfected art. Probably a dieing art, but oh well. Courtesy is dieing, things change, not always for the best, time moves on. Real quick, dad told me his dad, or grandad didn't like farm tractors when they were getting popular. He said horses are better for farming..

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stillwurkin said: ↑

I am sorry. Get that manual shifter lengthened and truck like a man. Reach up for the gearshift! Woo hoo.
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Get a truck with a sunroof for the extra cool ones.

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Jbrow327 said: ↑

Who here likes auto and who hates it? It seems like the hate on automatics has more to do with ego than logic.
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If you would live around NE corridor i would definitely picked auto regardless of the costs, on another hand if i would live around west cost, or TN,PA,WV were is mountains around you. , I would definitely picked manual

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I doubt manual transmission is going anywhere. If it does, well I guess I'll open up a shop and do conversions cause there'll be some good money in it.

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I doubt manual transmission is going anywhere. If it does, well I guess I'll open up a shop and do conversions cause there'll be some good money in it.
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Just wait......I’m sure big brother will find a way to outlaw that as well.

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