Yes and no.
The door sticker is relevant in many cases. However, some states and some DOT officers do not consider manufactures door stickers. Although, I agree they should be considered, some states have no regulations to do so. Other DOT officers are unaware of the door sticker or how to use the regs. in regard to them. Just saying.
Secondly a lot of pick ups don't have door stickers. I have a 3/4 ton and 1ton Cab and Chassis that have none. While it is likely the 3/4 got ripped off the 1 ton just says it was a incomplete vehicle with no ratings. Again, just saying.
No not at all.
If you are over tire rating; that is a ticket. If you are over axle rating; that is a ticket. If you are over, coupler rating that is a ticket. And all those tickets can be out of service ratings also.
I have seen no door sticker on a pick-up (class 3-4) that has a GCWR. Maybe you have one, I don't. Only axle ratings and GVWR. No trailer weight rating given, on door stickers for these trucks. While manufactures give trailer ratings in there sales literature and owners manuals it is not on the door or subject to DOT scrutiny. What axles you have on a trailer matter.
Bobtail on a little trailer
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@mjd4277 Are you getting your bobtail weights with the trailer still attached to the truck? If so that is NOT a bobtail weight. The bobtail weight is the truck without a trailer.[/QUOTE] Nope. All of our bobtail weights are NO TRAILERS ATTACHED- some shippers specifically require it(Anheuser-Busch,RockTenn/WestRock especially require us to do this).
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Our heaviest truck is a 2010 t800 with 46k rears, 20k steer and 20k drop with a APU and headache rack full of chains. This truck is a lot heavier than any Freightshaker or Volvo you are driving. It is also a longer wheelbase and partial double frame and it weighs in at 27k full of fuel. Oh and it is running 425s on the steer and drop.
There is no possible way you are driving a 3 axle truck that weighs that much pulling a box. You would have no room for cargo. Might work for paper towels. Maybe your sleeper and cab are all made of stainless steel but I doubt that too.
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I don't know what to tell you,maybe they use stamped steel in Virginia where they build the Volvos. The only plastic parts I could find was the hood,front bumper,side steps and aerodynamic fairings.And the versions we use are the XE models(eXceptional Efficiency).
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Estimate a trailer is 10k (or so) and that puts a tractor at about 25k
If you keep weigh in just bobtail at 35k you really need to clean out your truck, or go on a major diet.
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My w900l with the heavy ag100 suspension hooked to a combo 48' spread axle loaded with all my chains tarps and other crap running on Low pro 24.5s doesn't even weigh 32k. For 4 years I drove a 387 pulling paper spec 53'vans with tall 24.5 rubber on steel wheels we loaded 44-45k on them daily crossed state scales and were never over 80k. If a 387 weighed 32k bobtail there is no way in hell we could have done that. We also ran Columbia's, century's and a T800.
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Another I forgot to mention is that most of the tractor fleet run on 22.5 LP tires(for fuel economy reasons). Same with the trailers but there are variables involved with those(make,model,suspension type,etc). The tractors use stock power trains depending on the manufacturer.
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