Borg Warner turbo upgrade ??

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  1. areelius

    areelius Light Load Member

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    I had my ecm tuned 2 years ago by rebel 127 and my engine runs fantastic. He mentioned that it would run even better if I put on a Borg Warner 171702 turbo. Its a 12.7 Detroit . Have any of you Detroit owners put this turbo on? What were the results?
    Thanks very much.
     
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  3. allan5oh

    allan5oh Road Train Member

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    I wouldn't recommend the 171702 without a tune, but with a tune it's pretty good. It is larger than the stock turbo. Larger means more lag. You want to cruise at 1500+ and when it's hot out it really wont start spooling until around 1350. It will keep your EGTs down and is capable of more max HP.

    Downsides - more lag, less jake performance.
     
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  4. areelius

    areelius Light Load Member

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    Thanks Alan;
    I have a great tune at approx 500 wheel horsepower. It runs great but Rebel 127 said it was choked down with a "dinosaur turbo" He thought it needed opening up. On Ebay a 17702 is about $650 new. It seems too cheap to me. Maybe it's a Chinese knockoff.
    I have the stock turbo that came on the Detroit 470 horse engine. I could buy the Borg Warner and give it a try. What turbo would you put on this set up? I pull dry van and my gross weight varies from light to heavy. Western states only. I may have to put a DPF on this soon, so that must be factored in also. It won't go over 28 lbs of boost the way it is.
     
  5. Ruthless

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    I have a 171702. And a rebel tune. Down low it is a bit laggy, but she does fine 1450 and up. Get your turbo from a reputable source. Spending less money on the upfront only to have to buy another and clean out the CAC after it pops isn't a good way to go.
     
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  7. mhyn

    mhyn Road Train Member

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    tune ecm? can somebody explain me what does it mean ? rising the hp ?
     
  8. mhyn

    mhyn Road Train Member

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    that turbo you saw on ebay is 'made in china' borg warner product. today 95% oem turbo's are manufactured in china. just two day a go took out oem turbo from dd15 engine and the label was showing Holset HX55 made in china. Paccar's turbo is made in china too.
     
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  9. KB3MMX

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    It involves adjusting the software to change fuel delivery , injection timing and boost/fuel delivery rates, in addition to pedal sensitivity adjustment.

    Mostly it's used to achieve higher power and better fuel mileage.
     
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    mhyn Road Train Member

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    thanks MB3MMX. on Detroit you can do that by using DDCT. and aftermath would be higher thermal load on engine components and fantastic high level of NOx and CO..)))
     
  11. bigguns

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    Ruthless Do you achieve that much boost on a regular basis? My 12.7 has a tune, a BW 171702 turbo, and a shimmed fuel pump. I would get nervous when the gauge went past 35 and would keep going if I kept my foot into it. The gauge only goes to 35 lbs. but the needle would start a second trip around.
     
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