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580hp has 2000lb-ft from1100-1300 engine is first time released in 2000y now scania offers 2583lbft(1000-1350rpm) and 730hp

 

My 580 hp motor has 2700nm torque a tad less I'm told than a c16 600 hp 2788 nm, a 620 hp 3000 nm and a 730 hp has 3500 nm , I'm also a bit of a cat fan, used their engines in excavators here

 

Haha Obama came here this year to meet his long lost relatives in a village just 10 miles from my house, oh sorry I forgot again it's , O' Bama,

 

They did have them on the American Market in the late eighties - early ninties but they didn't sell too well, model choice was limited, they are a little heavy compared with US trucks and the thing that nailed thier coffin in the USA is they will not offer other manufacturers components in their trucks, they did offer fuller gearboxes before but now thier own gearboxes are stronger so fuller is not an option anymore . It seems that any guys in the US that did have them really liked them and got great service life from them , it's a pity they still don't, for one thing they might still offer the Longline cab if they did, they are heavy but extremely well built, they ride as good as any mercedes or BMW car, also so easy to drive, a four wheeler driver could sit in and immediately drive one and such an easy gearbox to use, lots of power and quiet inside, on the motorway the engine is barely audible, the double glazed windows keep out wind noise so unless you put a butterfly valve on the exhaust you will hear nothing more than the heater fan blowing on a motorway cruise, different story pulling heavy loads with your windows down that v8 rumble is unmistakeable.

They do sell Alot of engines in the us for marine and industrial uses so there is a dealer network there, just a pity they don't still offer trucks there

 

I'm with you on pacaar , I had DAFs over here , they are pacaar with pacaar engines, truck is ok but that engine is junk, I've never seen one make the million mark, gearboxes too are problematic , one of my pacaar engines didn't even make the quarter million mark and the second just over half a million and both were main dealer serviced and were taken care of, 600,000 seems to be about thier service life, pity nice enough to drive compared to most of the crap over here

 

mack truck would never make it to the west coast from the east coast, or if it did driver would have crippled himself from cheap rough ride.

 

also need to mention

with scania v8 there are very small chanses that this truck will fail , they save their best for v8 engines

they are reliable long life, good fuel economy (takes just little bit fuel more than 6cil) and excellent performances , they are not most advanced products but when you buy v8 you are playing on safe

it takes a lot of time when some new technologies come in to v8

i know for only few cases that v8 engine fail earlier than it supposed to be ( i mean in warranty period)

also v8 have great resale value, no other truck same year can get same price

also with v8 you dont get just truck it is way of life something more

worst v8 in my opinion ever is 164 480 , no real power not good fuel economy (comparing to 164 580) and for 3000€ less you could get 124 470 inline six 530lbs lighter far better on fuel , and same performances

 

I agree somewhat about the old 480 v8, people did question if they're worth The extra money considering there was no real power advantage over the 470, my 480's did 9mpg + all the time, still it was better to pull than a daf or Volvo 480, the real advantage came at resale because it was v8 it held it's value far more, besides that v8 is bulletproof, take care of those engines and there's no reason it won't last forever, a few of the 16 litre engines did fail when they came out first, it's always better to leave new designs a while so they iron out teething problems, when I bought the first 580 it was an early model 4 series, I had concerns because it was a new engine, his reply was "if it doesn't blow up in the first 6 months it never will" it didn't and it still runs up and down to Spain with over 1.5 m on the clock without as much as a hiccup, they just don't seem to wear out, my 1st one has 4m on the clock without a rebuild,

What I'd like to do is take a 730 with the overdrive gearbox to the USA where they don't have stupid speed limiters and tachographs and every now and again just crank it up, see what's what, maybe glue the back half of a kenworth cab or something like that to it and have a SCANWORTH, I'd have the best of both worlds ! That would be king of the road without a doubt, if that could happen I'd even give ye back O'Bama

 

I forgot to say his relatives were short , red faced Irish men and women, hard to see the family resemblance,

 

peterbilt all the way 359 r 379 only, with a cat motor, No plastic trucks here t-boy!