What I'm saying is, pay people what they deserve. If you want good help? Take care of them and they will take care of you. You want fly by night help? You get what you pay for. Yea- everbody will take a cheap load just to get back to the good one. Sorry not me. I'll stay parked until I find the right deal. Or the right broker.
Rollin. May I ask. You post a lot. Not to be funny but I actually enjoy your no nonsense posts. Are you retired or you post on your breaks. I always see you on here. Was just wondering. Thanks sir
I'm under a load right now headed to Atlanta area for 3 drops in the morning. I just spend way too much idle time on here is all. Stopped for a shower and supper and so wasting some more time on here.
Oh ok so I'm assuming you run reefer? How do you like it. I am hoping to leave brokerage next 12 months and open a reefer trucking company. I have few reefer customers and always wanted my own company.
You're probably a good driver and does what you say you will. Most aren't. And you ask these brokers they will tell you. Just because you pay someone an over the top rate or even just a marginally good one doesn't mean they're going to do what they said they will. Ask any of these brokers and I'm sure they can tell you the time they or their customer had to dig really deep on a critical move and some sad excuse of a carrier ####ed it up.
Reefer and dry van. You must really be a glutton for punishment wanting a fleet of trucks. Lol.. but you have actual customers and that's more than most startup carriers have. That's a leg up. I work exclusively with brokers but do so by choice. It's what I do. I love it or hate it depending on the season. What I find amusing about this thread is anyone that wants to cut a broker out of the picture is free to do so. There are many drivers who are members here that rarely if ever use brokers for any freight.
And wouldn't that be a charge back to the carrier. So offer a good rate and if they mess it up have it in the contract to charge it all back. I bet it is even at the cheap rate.
That contract wouldn't be enforceable probably. Also you really wouldn't ever want to sign that. Some brokers would use clauses like that to steal. The guy who is willing to run it cheaper than you deserves to be given the opportunity to snatch it before you'll run it. He clearly needs to go there worse than you do. Is it more just that he gets stuck not going where he wants so that you can get an extra couple of hundred bucks? Look I'm not trying to make some sanctimonious argument. This is all business. I do this because it makes me money and I don't pretend otherwise. But it's a standard part of every market for every commodity ever. You're trying to hold brokers to a higher standard than the one you live by. When a broker posts a really high rate do you call and tell him you can do it for less? It's a game. We're all just players in it. If you don't feel like you have an edge in the game you really shouldn't be playing it because replacement level trucking is a pretty ####ty business.
I've done a few of the 'brokerless' boards when they came out and were offered to me promising to 'eliminate the broker', mostly specialized stuff. They.Don't.Work. Never will Inevitably, I'd get "awarded to someone else". Then, you guessed it, the load shows up on the regular load boards. There is no way to keep brokers that have carrier authority (but no trucks) from bidding the freight. And there shouldn't be- you have the authority you have the right. I will say from following how some of these platforms progress it's pretty brilliant- sign up & qualify carriers in the beginning, then modify the software platform to function as 'in house' proprietary, sell the modified platform to shippers and get a fee to maintain the carrier database and platform. On the "brokers=cheap freight" thing, everyone (brokers, OO's, IC's) should read the research report I just got done reading. Real-world CPM numbers, not some profit/loss app or "I can run for $x/mi and make money. Gives a whole new meaning to cheap freight.
