Brokers offer transparency. Imagine that!

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by TallJoe, Mar 23, 2023.

  1. Siinman

    Siinman Road Train Member

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    But what if we look at this from the owners side. I have bought into the new truck and have way more invested than you. You should be capped out since you are not willing to keep up with times and emissions.
     
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  3. TallJoe

    TallJoe Road Train Member

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    You are mixing ideas and concepts. You and I are are the same stock, playing per load to truck ratio.
     
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  4. Siinman

    Siinman Road Train Member

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    I would disagree!
     
  5. Long FLD

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    To be fair, any carrier that has employees and an office/shop, things of that nature would have to prove their yearly overhead for all of that and it would be prorated and figured in to the rate they could charge.
     
  6. REO6205

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    Exactly right. Some people come to America to escape financial limitations placed on them. When they turn around and try to implement the same kinds of governmental control it makes a person wonder what ther actual motives are.
    Why, after leaving a despotic environment, are they trying to recreate the same thing here?
    Nobody makes anybody buy a truck. Nobody makes anybody come to America either.
    The gate swings both ways. If people don't like it here and are so obviously unhappy, they need to consider whether or not to stay.
    Lead, follow, or get out of the way.
     
  7. TallJoe

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    I meant you are a guy with a truck and trailer, so am I. There's not argument to that.
     
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  8. Siinman

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    I understand that! But if we are gonna be all about who deserves it, because of skin in the game, then I have more skin in the game and should be paid more. Very similar to your thought on brokers not having any skin in the game. Your investment is closer to a broker then someone who has bought new equipment.
     
  9. TallJoe

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    The motives are often too complex and beyond your understanding. Not everybody is escaping misery, despotism or oppression - that's too simplistic. And you don't have a license to be an ultimate arbiter to say what their motives ought to be. I am here not to admire the likes of you, that's for sure!

    But that's a ludicrous claim to say that it is foreigners like me wanting to impose anything on anybody. The very talk of transparency and broker's cap is hardly any foreign.

    The OOIDA stands behind it and tens of thousands of full blooded American owner operators along with. I must be the only immigrant to touch and argue on the subject on this forum, still I yet to follow the convoy to DC protesting the low rates.

    Why not being consequential and stop all that talk about Eastern Euros undermining the market for proud Americans like you? Nobody forces anybody to stay in this business but yet I hear that I haul too cheap and undermine things for others? How's does that sentiment fit in the overall set of American values that is based on a free market competition?
     
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  10. wichris

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    Had to take a break and count all that money made this morning ripping off trucks. LOL
    Whole argument sounds like the "everyone gets a trophy" "everyone wins".
    It's a business, there will be winners and losers.
    Winners put in a lot of effort and make it happen.
    Losers sit and complain about how unfair it is.
    That's why some make it and others don't.
     
  11. Long FLD

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    OOIDA says the broker should have 48 hours after delivery to disclose the rate. So how is that a benefit? If you ask they just won’t load you again.

    It’s hard for a simple minded person like me to keep up with the mental gymnastics of why something is ok for one person but not another and such, so I’ll just ask this.

    How many loads available out of Chicago today?
    How many trucks are available in Chicago today?
    How will knowing the original rate to the broker change those numbers?

    The simple answer is it won’t. So it comes down to wanting to limit another business’ profit while having no limitations on your own.
     
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